I Never payed attention to the lighting conditions. I will make sure some 
lights are turned on and sea what happens. 

Doug



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On 2010-06-28, at 5:06 AM, Chris Moore <[email protected]> wrote:

> You tried in good lighting conditions?  I must admit I find it a bit hit and 
> miss so don't think I will use it much.  As for labels I will stick with my 
> RNIB Pen Friend Audio Labeller (it was only £50) and never fails.
> On 28 Jun 2010, at 02:03, Doug Lawlor wrote:
> 
>> I purchased the Digit Eyes app and have not had any success in scanning 
>> items so far. I even tried turning the phone on it's side and holding the 
>> phone a couple of inches away from the item in question. Still no luck with 
>> it. I am going to buy the labels they've recommend on there site to sea if I 
>> can get the app to scan the audio labels they are talking about. The company 
>> doesn't mention if you need any special software to print these labels. I 
>> think I will contact the company tomorrow to find out how to go about 
>> printing these. . . 
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2010-06-27, at 12:31 PM, Keith Watson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> It's not a laser camera. It's just a laser barcode reader, and in my 
>>> opinion they over charge for the thing. I am not going to commit to 
>>> anything here. But if I can get ahold of a bluetooth barcode reader, the 
>>> laser type, I would like to port an app that I wrote for the Icon/Braille 
>>> Plus that does exactly the same thing. The issue is that a BT reader 
>>> usually runs around $300 and that price point is still too high in my 
>>> opinion. I would really like for the entry point to be in the 100 to 150 
>>> dollar range.
>>> 
>>> I have been wondering why the Digit-Eyes folks haven't considered this 
>>> approach. It would not be very difficult to make it a setting to either use 
>>> the camera or the scanner to grab the barcode and then query their 
>>> database. Hell, I would even contemplate the $30 cost of the software and 
>>> the $300 cost of a scanner if it had that functionality.
>>> 
>>> Just my thoughts.
>>> 
>>> Keith
>>> 
>>> But if I can find 
>>> On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:42 AM, Allison Manzino wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I have managed to scan a few things with sighted assistance. I will do a 
>>>> podcast tomorrow on it. I think you have to wait for a minute or two for 
>>>> Digit-eyes to come back with a positive ID.  I  didn't know the ID Mate 
>>>> had a lazar camera that makes sense why it's so expensive. there is  a 
>>>> trick with Digit-Eyes according to my Mom. You have to hold the phone on 
>>>> it's side and make sure the screen curtain is turned off. If you hold it a 
>>>> few inches away from the item you're trying to scan you will get better 
>>>> results that way or so I've found with the few things I tried.
>>>> 
>>>> Allison
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:29 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> No not really, it is tricky, if you have a enough sight to see where the 
>>>>> barcode is then you have a bit more success. It has been hit and miss 
>>>>> with me and to be honest by the time I have managed to get it to read a 
>>>>> barcode I have placed the item under my iPal Solo to have it read 
>>>>> instead.  I I have not used the ID mate in person, but I guess the 3D 
>>>>> camera would explain its hight price. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have no vision at all it is very difficult to locate the barcode, 
>>>>> so this solution is not ideal, unless there was a ruling to say where 
>>>>> barcodes can always be found.  Let's hope the OCR solutions for the 
>>>>> iPhone are more successful.  But the barcode reader is not totally 
>>>>> useless as I did manage to scan some things.
>>>>> On 27 Jun 2010, at 07:16, Bryan Smart wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> With Digit-Eyes, how do you find the bar code? When I was involved with 
>>>>>> the development of an accessible bar code system a few years back, 
>>>>>> cameras didn't do a good job. For the bar code recognition to work, the 
>>>>>> camera couldn't face the bar code at an angle, at it had to be 
>>>>>> right-side-up. Of course, a blind person doesn't necessarily know where 
>>>>>> on the box, can, or bottle the bar code is to be found, so that creates 
>>>>>> a challenge. That's partly why the ID Mate is so expensive. They must 
>>>>>> use a 3D laser scanner, like is used in the check-out line at a grocery 
>>>>>> store. Those perform an active scan, and can register bar codes at any 
>>>>>> angle, and even on curved surfaces. You can basically hold up the 
>>>>>> scanner and turn the container in front of the camera, and it will 
>>>>>> automatically scan the bar code as soon as it's visible, regardless of 
>>>>>> the bar code's orientation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My thoughts were that the iPhone app would be like trying to read a bar 
>>>>>> code with a CCD scanner. Yes, it would work but only if you knew where 
>>>>>> to find the bar code, which way was right-side-up, and only if the bar 
>>>>>> code was on a flat surface. Is it better than that?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bryan 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Allison Manzino
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 10:03 AM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: saytext: new OCR app for IPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Bryan and all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can say with certainty that the camera on the 3GS works well for the 
>>>>>> new bar code reader that Josh Lioncourt was talking about the other day 
>>>>>> Digit-Eyes. I have downloaded it and it works well. Not having any 
>>>>>> experience with the Iphone 4, I can't say about the cameras. I know it 
>>>>>> has two according to Cara Quin's podcast. Have a great day.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Allison
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2010, at 5:41 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bryan,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From what I have heard, the 3GS camera will do the job even if it is 
>>>>>>> not as good as the new iPhone 4. I will be very interested in how this 
>>>>>>> application performs despite the limitations of the 3GS.
>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2010, at 2:52 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The iPhone 4 should do a great job with this app. The 5 megapixel 
>>>>>>>> camera provides the level of resolution that assisted KNFB Reader so 
>>>>>>>> much. With the lower quality cameras, the DPI of scanned images is too 
>>>>>>>> low.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Bryan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 11:30 PM
>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: saytext: new OCR app for IPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> No,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The iPod touch doesn't have a camera.
>>>>>>>> On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:26 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> Will this work with the Ipod Touch also?
>>>>>>>>> Courtney
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think it's out yet.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find it in the app store.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> hth
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 25, 2010, at 9:15 PM, John J Herzog wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>> I just got this link from a friend of mine. Apparently, this app is 
>>>>>>>>>>> free, and it performs OCR using the new IPhone. It's different from 
>>>>>>>>>>> the one that emails your image to a server and then gives you back 
>>>>>>>>>>> text. This one actually performs OCR on the phone.
>>>>>>>>>>> Furthermore, it automatically takes pictures once the camera is 
>>>>>>>>>>> aligned with the center of the document.
>>>>>>>>>>> Check out this link for more information.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.docscannerapp.com/saytext/
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone let me know how it works?
>>>>>>>>>>> John
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