Hi, The thing is I plan to take mine out of the case, do I still need the dock extender? Thanks so much for the helpful info. Courtney On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Esther wrote:
> Hi Courtney, > > Congrats on your plans to get a keyboard dock to use with your iPod Touch. > I'll cc this post to the viphone list, since there are some posters who have > been interested in using the iPad keyboard dock for the iPhone 3GS. I'm not > sure whether the Apple Store will carry dock extension cables, since that's > the kind of item that may depend on whether they have enough space to stock > it while carrying all the new iPads, iPhones, and their accessories. If you > want something like the Cable Jive "dockXtender" (weird spelling) that Geoff > posted about on the viphone list for use with the Otterbox Defender cases, > then my guess is that you'll have to go through the manufacturer's order page: > http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockXtender.html > That recently released dock extender cable should work for every case -- as > opposed to a lot of cables that worked for nearly every case -- just not the > Otterbox Defender. Using the cable won't let you take advantage of the iPad > keyboard dock's ability to support the iPod Touch on the base when docked. > There are a number of iPod Touch cases that allow you to slide a bottom > portion of the case off to dock, though. They include cases like the Griffin > Wave and the Incase Slider. On the other hand, using a dock extender cable > will allow you to use the headset and mic cables that come with the iPod > Touch to control your playback and use voice control, since you can still > access the headset jack at the bottom right of the iPod Touch. This iPod > Touch headset jack is covered up when the iPod Touch sits in the dock, unlike > the case for the iPhone 3GS and iPad where the headset jack along the top > right side of the device, and so remains available even when the device is > docked. If I'm listening to audio from the iPod Touch through a headset, > instead of through the iPod Touch speakers, I'll connect my headset to the > mini-jack port in the support base of the iPad keyboard dock. That won't > allow me to control the volume and playback through the headset controls, but > I can use the keyboard controls to rewind, play/pause, and fast forward, and > I attach a volume control cable that you can get from Radio Shack to dial > down the volume. (I'm not sure the link will work, but the product is > "Gold-Plated Volume Control Cable for Stereo Headphones", Model: 42-2559, > Catalog #: 42-2559, with current price of $8.99, which seems more than I > paid.) Web URL is: > http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102975 > When I use my iPad, I simply use the headset controls directly, or the > keyboard media controls for playback (F7, F8, and F9 positions for rewind, > play/pause, advance) and volume control (F10, F11, and F12 positions for > mute, decrease volume, increase volume), just as on the Macbook keyboard. > Since I'm more likely to use my iPad for extensive note taking an typing, > this isn't an issue. I don't really need to have all the media controls > through the headset mic cable if I'm actively typing, and if I'm not typing > large amounts of text I'll pull the iPod Touch off of the dock. If you want > more portability you might want to get the Apple Wireless Keyboard. The > action of the keyboards is the same: these are both the relatively flat, > chiclet type keyboards used with the current generation Macbook (Pro) > laptops. Each key is separated, the "f" and "j" keys have horizontal bars to > distinguish them by touch, and the key action has the relatively short travel > distance of current laptop keyboards. The keyboard dock does give you a few > more keys, such as the one to return to the home page, and the one to take > you to the search page (first two keys in the top row, starting at the left). > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jun 30, 2010, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm getting the Ipad keyboard dock this Friday to use with my Ipod Touch >> this Friday. Before I go to the Apple store, do they have the dock extention >> connector cable there, or will I have to wait an agonizingly long time >> (smiles)? >> Courtney >> >> On Jun 30, 2010, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> Thanks for that, but i really hope the Freedom i connex works as it is >>> foldable so it would be easier to caryy around with me if I need to type a >>> longer SMS or email. Shame the Apple keyboard was not foldable. Actually >>> I love the keyboard my imac uses, much nicer then my laptop but that is way >>> too big LOL >>> On 30 Jun 2010, at 18:30, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Chris, >>>> >>>> I'm using the iPad keyboard dock with my iPod Touch, but here's a link to >>>> an article reporting use of the iPad keyboard dock with the iPhone 3GS at >>>> Slashgear: >>>> http://www.slashgear.com/ios4-iphone-3gs-works-with-ipad-keyboard-dock-video-2290908/ >>>> There's an earlier post I wrote on "iPad keyboard options" that has a link >>>> to the Gearlog diary entry about this, and also links and excerpts to Dan >>>> Frakes' article evaluating both the iPad keyboard dock and the Apple >>>> Wireless Keyboard: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg19393.html >>>> There are some other considerations that I've discussed on the viphone >>>> list. The keyboard dock is less portable than the Wireless (BlueTooth) >>>> keyboard. In order to support the larger iPad, it has a stabilizer base >>>> that extends out the back of the keyboard, so it weighs nearly twice as >>>> much as the wireless keyboard (21.4 ounces vs. 11.4 ounces, or 600 grams >>>> vs. 320 grams). It's about the size of the iPhone (very slightly larger), >>>> and extends out from the middle of the keyboard so that it supports the >>>> keyboard at a slight angle for easier typing. The stabilizer base also >>>> supports the back of the iPod Touch or iPad. It supports about the bottom >>>> third of my iPod Touch, as it sits on the dock connector, and is very >>>> slightly wider than the device. >>>> >>>> Good points of the keyboard dock are: support in fixed position makes it >>>> easy to alternate between typing and touching the screen, dock has a >>>> connector that allows you to charge your device while docked, and also has >>>> a standard 3.5 mm audio jack connector that lets you connect up to audio >>>> system or speakers (or, you could plug in your headset). >>>> >>>> Possible issues: you can't use a case on the bottom of the device that you >>>> dock (not a problem for me, since my iPod Touch case can slide the bottom >>>> half off), less portable (because of weight and shape), probably not >>>> optimal for docking the new iPhone 4 (because of the different shape >>>> design and thickness). Also, the iPhone speaker is at the bottom of the >>>> device, so I don't know how this would work if receive a call while typing. >>>> >>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> On Jun 30, 2010, Chris Moore wrote: >>>> >>>>> Does the iPad keyboard dock work with the iPhone? >>>>> On 30 Jun 2010, at 16:42, Esther wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Thuy, Donna, and Erik, >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you really do page up and page down on the Braille Display? I'd be >>>>>> interested to see a list of the navigation capabilities of the Braille >>>>>> devices. I'm writing up a summary of keyboard shortcuts for the Apple >>>>>> Wireless Keyboard and iPad Keyboard Dock. These are mostly the movement >>>>>> and selection commands you are familiar with, but none of the Fn key >>>>>> combinations that work on the Macbook to page up or page down (Fn+Up or >>>>>> Down Arrow), or to forward delete (Fn+Delete) work with these keyboards. >>>>>> This may be a decision, since the iPad Keyboard Dock doesn't have the >>>>>> Fn key. What's interesting is that the shortcut combination of >>>>>> Command-Space bar to switch input language keyboards works with these >>>>>> keyboards. (This shortcut key combination is in the list by Jacob Rus >>>>>> of Cocoa keybindings, and predates the existence of Spotlight, which was >>>>>> also assigned this shortcut.) >>>>>> http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/site/system-bindings.html >>>>>> The only thing is, if you want to switch to language with non-Roman >>>>>> letters, such as Russian (cyrillic characters), Greek, or Japanese, >>>>>> you'd better set your language rotor to "Default" if you want to hear >>>>>> these options announced. (And I'm really happy there is a language >>>>>> rotor in iOS4.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Erik, you can't assign new keys under iOS4, so unless there's a way to >>>>>> remap the key assignments on the Braille devices, I don't think you can >>>>>> customize shortcut key combinations. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Esther >>>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
