Hi, Thanks so much, I appreciate it. Actually, as a matter of fact, I don't use the earbuds that came with it because they hurt so much. But I do use noise cancelling over the ear headphones, would they fit in the mini jack in the Ipad dock? Thanks so much, Courtney On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Esther wrote:
> Hi Courtney and Scott, > > I'll answer both your questions here. > > If you take your iPod Touch out of the case (or slip off the bottom of the > case) to dock it on the iPad keyboard dock, then you don't need a dock > extender to use it with the keyboard. The only trade-off for you is that you > won't be able to plug in a headset into the headset jack, since the bottom of > the iPod Touch sits against the dock support. That means that you won't be > able to use the controls on the headset with mic that came with your iPod > Touch to control volume, track navigation, and do voice control if you want > to use a headset instead of using the iPod Touch speaker. If you do plug in > a headset (or good audio speakers), you have to do it through the mini-jack > in the base of the iPad keyboard dock. Although this supplies quite good > audio, there's no volume control, and I find it a bit loud. That's why I > attach a control cable from Radio Shack in between. This is just a short > cable that plugs in between the mini-jack and my headset with mic, so I can > dial down the maximum volume that passes to the headset on a geared wheel. > You can only control playback, volume, etc. from a headset if it's plugged > directly into the headset jack of your iDevice. > > Someone who wanted to use the iPad keyboard dock with an iPhone 4 might need > or prefer to use a dock extender, however. > > Scott asked: > > "do you know how much of an impact there is on the battery of your iPod Touch > or maybe even an iPhone if leaving bluetooth on with all the other stuff? I > also think it would be nice if bluetooth could be set to non-discoverable > once you have a device paired, but that may not have any affect on security > or battery savings." > > I haven't had a lot of experience with Bluetooth devices and the iPod Touch. > I have found that if the device is paired, I can go to the Setting menu to > check the device status, press the right side switch on the Apple Wireless > Keyboard (the round circle on the side opposite the circle with a notch that > allows you to open the device and load/unload batteries), and turn pairing > off (as well as turn the Wireless Keyboard off). Then, when I turn my > Wireless Keyboard on and turn Bluetooth on for the iPod Touch, the device > pretty much automatically pairs (although I do double tap the keyboard among > the discovered devices just to be sure). > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jul 1, 2010, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> The thing is I plan to take mine out of the case, do I still need the dock >> extender? >> Thanks so much for the helpful info. >> Courtney >> On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Courtney, >>> >>> Congrats on your plans to get a keyboard dock to use with your iPod Touch. >>> I'll cc this post to the viphone list, since there are some posters who >>> have been interested in using the iPad keyboard dock for the iPhone 3GS. >>> I'm not sure whether the Apple Store will carry dock extension cables, >>> since that's the kind of item that may depend on whether they have enough >>> space to stock it while carrying all the new iPads, iPhones, and their >>> accessories. If you want something like the Cable Jive "dockXtender" >>> (weird spelling) that Geoff posted about on the viphone list for use with >>> the Otterbox Defender cases, then my guess is that you'll have to go >>> through the manufacturer's order page: >>> http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockXtender.html >>> That recently released dock extender cable should work for every case -- as >>> opposed to a lot of cables that worked for nearly every case -- just not >>> the Otterbox Defender. Using the cable won't let you take advantage of the >>> iPad keyboard dock's ability to support the iPod Touch on the base when >>> docked. There are a number of iPod Touch cases that allow you to slide a >>> bottom portion of the case off to dock, though. They include cases like >>> the Griffin Wave and the Incase Slider. On the other hand, using a dock >>> extender cable will allow you to use the headset and mic cables that come >>> with the iPod Touch to control your playback and use voice control, since >>> you can still access the headset jack at the bottom right of the iPod >>> Touch. This iPod Touch headset jack is covered up when the iPod Touch sits >>> in the dock, unlike the case for the iPhone 3GS and iPad where the headset >>> jack along the top right side of the device, and so remains available even >>> when the device is docked. If I'm listening to audio from the iPod Touch >>> through a headset, instead of through the iPod Touch speakers, I'll connect >>> my headset to the mini-jack port in the support base of the iPad keyboard >>> dock. That won't allow me to control the volume and playback through the >>> headset controls, but I can use the keyboard controls to rewind, >>> play/pause, and fast forward, and I attach a volume control cable that you >>> can get from Radio Shack to dial down the volume. (I'm not sure the link >>> will work, but the product is "Gold-Plated Volume Control Cable for Stereo >>> Headphones", Model: 42-2559, Catalog #: 42-2559, with current price of >>> $8.99, which seems more than I paid.) Web URL is: >>> http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102975 >>> When I use my iPad, I simply use the headset controls directly, or the >>> keyboard media controls for playback (F7, F8, and F9 positions for rewind, >>> play/pause, advance) and volume control (F10, F11, and F12 positions for >>> mute, decrease volume, increase volume), just as on the Macbook keyboard. >>> Since I'm more likely to use my iPad for extensive note taking an typing, >>> this isn't an issue. I don't really need to have all the media controls >>> through the headset mic cable if I'm actively typing, and if I'm not typing >>> large amounts of text I'll pull the iPod Touch off of the dock. If you >>> want more portability you might want to get the Apple Wireless Keyboard. >>> The action of the keyboards is the same: these are both the relatively >>> flat, chiclet type keyboards used with the current generation Macbook (Pro) >>> laptops. Each key is separated, the "f" and "j" keys have horizontal bars >>> to distinguish them by touch, and the key action has the relatively short >>> travel distance of current laptop keyboards. The keyboard dock does give >>> you a few more keys, such as the one to return to the home page, and the >>> one to take you to the search page (first two keys in the top row, starting >>> at the left). >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Jun 30, 2010, Courtney Curran wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> I'm getting the Ipad keyboard dock this Friday to use with my Ipod Touch >>>> this Friday. Before I go to the Apple store, do they have the dock >>>> extention connector cable there, or will I have to wait an agonizingly >>>> long time (smiles)? >>>> Courtney >>>> >>>> On Jun 30, 2010, Chris Moore wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for that, but i really hope the Freedom i connex works as it is >>>>> foldable so it would be easier to caryy around with me if I need to type >>>>> a longer SMS or email. Shame the Apple keyboard was not foldable. >>>>> Actually I love the keyboard my imac uses, much nicer then my laptop but >>>>> that is way too big LOL >>>>> On 30 Jun 2010, at 18:30, Esther wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm using the iPad keyboard dock with my iPod Touch, but here's a link >>>>>> to an article reporting use of the iPad keyboard dock with the iPhone >>>>>> 3GS at Slashgear: >>>>>> http://www.slashgear.com/ios4-iphone-3gs-works-with-ipad-keyboard-dock-video-2290908/ >>>>>> There's an earlier post I wrote on "iPad keyboard options" that has a >>>>>> link to the Gearlog diary entry about this, and also links and excerpts >>>>>> to Dan Frakes' article evaluating both the iPad keyboard dock and the >>>>>> Apple Wireless Keyboard: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg19393.html >>>>>> There are some other considerations that I've discussed on the viphone >>>>>> list. The keyboard dock is less portable than the Wireless (BlueTooth) >>>>>> keyboard. In order to support the larger iPad, it has a stabilizer base >>>>>> that extends out the back of the keyboard, so it weighs nearly twice as >>>>>> much as the wireless keyboard (21.4 ounces vs. 11.4 ounces, or 600 grams >>>>>> vs. 320 grams). It's about the size of the iPhone (very slightly >>>>>> larger), and extends out from the middle of the keyboard so that it >>>>>> supports the keyboard at a slight angle for easier typing. The >>>>>> stabilizer base also supports the back of the iPod Touch or iPad. It >>>>>> supports about the bottom third of my iPod Touch, as it sits on the dock >>>>>> connector, and is very slightly wider than the device. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good points of the keyboard dock are: support in fixed position makes it >>>>>> easy to alternate between typing and touching the screen, dock has a >>>>>> connector that allows you to charge your device while docked, and also >>>>>> has a standard 3.5 mm audio jack connector that lets you connect up to >>>>>> audio system or speakers (or, you could plug in your headset). >>>>>> >>>>>> Possible issues: you can't use a case on the bottom of the device that >>>>>> you dock (not a problem for me, since my iPod Touch case can slide the >>>>>> bottom half off), less portable (because of weight and shape), probably >>>>>> not optimal for docking the new iPhone 4 (because of the different shape >>>>>> design and thickness). Also, the iPhone speaker is at the bottom of the >>>>>> device, so I don't know how this would work if receive a call while >>>>>> typing. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Esther >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 30, 2010, Chris Moore wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Does the iPad keyboard dock work with the iPhone? >>>>>>> On 30 Jun 2010, at 16:42, Esther wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Thuy, Donna, and Erik, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can you really do page up and page down on the Braille Display? I'd >>>>>>>> be interested to see a list of the navigation capabilities of the >>>>>>>> Braille devices. I'm writing up a summary of keyboard shortcuts for >>>>>>>> the Apple Wireless Keyboard and iPad Keyboard Dock. These are mostly >>>>>>>> the movement and selection commands you are familiar with, but none of >>>>>>>> the Fn key combinations that work on the Macbook to page up or page >>>>>>>> down (Fn+Up or Down Arrow), or to forward delete (Fn+Delete) work with >>>>>>>> these keyboards. This may be a decision, since the iPad Keyboard Dock >>>>>>>> doesn't have the Fn key. What's interesting is that the shortcut >>>>>>>> combination of Command-Space bar to switch input language keyboards >>>>>>>> works with these keyboards. (This shortcut key combination is in the >>>>>>>> list by Jacob Rus of Cocoa keybindings, and predates the existence of >>>>>>>> Spotlight, which was also assigned this shortcut.) >>>>>>>> http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/site/system-bindings.html >>>>>>>> The only thing is, if you want to switch to language with non-Roman >>>>>>>> letters, such as Russian (cyrillic characters), Greek, or Japanese, >>>>>>>> you'd better set your language rotor to "Default" if you want to hear >>>>>>>> these options announced. (And I'm really happy there is a language >>>>>>>> rotor in iOS4.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Erik, you can't assign new keys under iOS4, so unless there's a way to >>>>>>>> remap the key assignments on the Braille devices, I don't think you >>>>>>>> can customize shortcut key combinations. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Esther >>>>>> >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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