Hi Michael, I do the same thing, and I like it very much. But I receive a lot of messages with links to articles and the like, and it would be nice to be able to just press enter or VO-Space to activate the link, without the two additional keystrokes of interacting with message area and text. Best, Donna On Aug 11, 2010, at 3:05 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
> Hi, Donna, > > As far as reading e-mail messages is concerned, I rarely interact with them > as long as I am just interested in content. When I come across a message I > wish to read, I just hit Enter on it, and VO reads it aloud. While this > doesn't work in every program or situation, it's nice for just quickly > perusing mail. > > I forgot how I enabled this feature, but the idea came from a genius on one > of the VO Mac lists, and I've really enjoy it. > > Best regards, > > Mike > On 10,Aug,2010, at 5:23 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi Ray, >> >> Fair points. But, if I'm, say, reading an email message, then clearly I've >> decided to interact with it, otherwise I would have just deleted the >> message. So, to then have to take the additional step of interacting, seems >> redundant, at least to me. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> Donna, you read much too much in to what I said. I did not imply that you >>> don't like the Mac, rather, I was addressing the concept of interaction. >>> At first, it seemed foreign to Sarah, but, after she got in to my Mac, she >>> saw the logic of it. Personally, I like the concept of interaction; >>> particularly with browsing. For example, what if you come across a frame >>> on a page. You may or may not want to examine it. IF you do need or want >>> to, you can interact with it so you can pay attention to it. IF you don't >>> want to, however, you can just ignore it and move on to the next thing. I >>> don't want assumptions made for me about what I want to pay attention to or >>> not; and, the concept of interaction gives me the freedom to make that >>> choice for myself. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>> >>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! >>> >>> E-Mail: >>> rforetjr at comcast dot net >>> Skype Name: >>> barefootedray >>> >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ray, >>>> >>>> I didn't say I don't like the Mac, quite the contrary. I just think that >>>> having to interact is annoying, and serves no real purpose. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>>> >>>>> With respect, I cannot agree. My lovely constantly barefooted Fiance >>>>> thought the same thing at first; but then, she had a go with my Mac while >>>>> she was down here visiting me; and, now, she really has taken to it. >>>>> Now, she's not to the point of switching herself, but, she has now got >>>>> the confidence that if she did switch, she could use a Mac very well. It >>>>> took her no more than the time of one afternoon to get her teeth in to it >>>>> enough to get browsing that very evening. The concept of interaction >>>>> seemed foreign to her before she tried it, but now, to her, it's quite >>>>> logical. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>>>> >>>>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! >>>>> >>>>> E-Mail: >>>>> rforetjr at comcast dot net >>>>> Skype Name: >>>>> barefootedray >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Oh, so that's the problem. Arg. You know, if the Apple genie would >>>>>> grant me just one wish, it would be that this whole interacting concept >>>>>> would just disappear. It just isn't natural! *grin* >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi donna, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It does read from the point of the cursor. You just need to interact >>>>>>> again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hth >>>>>>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I haven't followed this thread too closely, so first, my apologies if >>>>>>>> I'm bringing up something that has already been covered. But I have >>>>>>>> this same problem trying to read to the bottom of text. For example, >>>>>>>> when reading a long email, if I press VO-A, it will read the whole >>>>>>>> message, even if I'm already halfway down the message body. I do wish >>>>>>>> there were some way to make VO start reading where you are, instead of >>>>>>>> back at the top of the document. Note that the one exception for this >>>>>>>> seems to be in Safari, where pressing VO-A reads from cursor to end. >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:25 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No, it seems to read past it. For example, if you are replying to an >>>>>>>>> email and you just want to read up to the point where your cursor is, >>>>>>>>> you can read line by line or paragraph, or hit VO a or B, but it >>>>>>>>> does not stop at the cursor, it continues reading past it and starts >>>>>>>>> reading the previous text from the message you are replying to. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course you can stop VO manually, but it would be nice if it >>>>>>>>> stopped automatically. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>> On 10 Aug 2010, at 03:56, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>>>>>>> I thought vo a was suppose to read from top of page to your cursor. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> mary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mary Otten >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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