Hi guys
I personally am a big fan of the mac. I also really like vinux3.0 based on 
Ubuntu. Orca is coming along nicely and its nice to use ubuntu to legally and 
freely turn my pc into a mac which talks out of the box and for $5 I get voxin 
to use with it. I am disappointed that gwmicro did not even mention the fact 
linux distributions such as vinux and knoppix-adriane and grml exist. One of 
the reasons I like vinux is because it pretty much turns any pc into a macLike 
computer with the same or better security and stability just as the mac has on 
it. With vinux I just plug in my braille display and it works, usb and passport 
drives show up as icons on the desktop. There's no safely remove hardware. it 
has a calculator, dictionary, web browser, at least two email programs, a ful 
office suite including powerpoint, and that's just scratching the surface. If 
you install emacs you get the gnome desktop plus the emacs audio desktop with 
voxin. You can use both console and graphical modes. Don't want to remember 
tons of commands? then don't worry about it, you can just copy and paste 
commands into the terminal. Vinux only needs 384 mb to 512mb of ram to run. if 
you plan on using vmware player and windows7 then get at least 3gb of ram. 
win-xp and win98 need much much less ram. I love my mac and I love vinux3.0 
equally! GwMicro doesn't seem to want to really acknowledge apple, or NVDA, or 
serotek, or vinux or grml or knoppix-adriane at all. 

Josh Kennedy
[email protected]


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