Mark, I had listened to your pod cast sufficiently well. There was a missing item in things that need to happen, and even after that not all items in mail will read immediately after they are opened in a separate window.
The item that you were missing is in the Voice Over Utility. If you uncheck (as is the default) "Automatically select items in lists and tables." then the automatic reading never works in addition, any "RSS" items in mail appear to never read automatically using your method. Just as an FYI since I believe MIke mentioned it, having the preview pane on / off does not make a difference in automatic reading according to my tests. Best wishes, Jon new e-mail mail messages. The case where On 25/09/2010, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Jonathan, > > First, I changed the subject line to better reflect the discussion in which > we are now engaging. > > 2. > In my podcast on this subject, I demonstrate how to change the default email > header preferences in Apple Mail so that messages will once again, just as > in previous versions of the Mac OS, begin reading automatically. > > > <http://mark.candleshoreblog.com/2010/08/20/ep59-how-to-optimize-the-macinto > sh-mail-application-for-use-with-voiceover/> Please Click Here to take > another listen to the episode. > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [ > <mailto:[email protected]> > mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 12:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: A Quick Question About The Multi-Touch Trackpad > > Mark, > > I probably shouldn't bring in a seperate issue here..., but hI > listened to your p'cast on reading mail on the Macintosh, and I don't > get my mail messages to auto-read when they open. I first have to > interact with the text block. Have you ever experienced this? In > Leopard, the message block would read without issue, but since > upgrading, this has not worked for me. > Thanks, > > Jon > > > On 23/09/2010, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote: >> I've disabled the preview pane, and I think Mark has too. >> On Sep 23, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike and Mark: >>> Perhaps it's because I haven't disabled preview pane. I am able to open >>> and close messages with ctl-mouse-click, much as one would with VO-j. >>> It's the only reason I can think of, as I didn't even realize I've been >>> viewing preview pane. HMMM, always learning. >>> >>> Carolyn >>> On Sep 22, 2010, at 11:57 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Mike. >>>> >>>> Yes, I have come to that same conclusion. I don't know, it seemed that >>>> since one can do so many things from the TrackPad actually opening an >>>> email message should be one of them. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> On Sep 22, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't think double tapping the track pad will open the message, to do >>>>> that, just press enter and then use command w to close the window and >>>>> return to the in box. >>>>> On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:57 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> This may be obvious to some but... >>>>>> >>>>>> I find that I'm using my TrackPad more and more to interact with Apple >>>>>> Mail. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> All works wonderfully well except I cannot seem to open emails with > the >>>>>> TrackPad. Can this be done? >>>>>> >>>>>> Please keep in mind that I do not use the Preview Pane, thus, >>>>>> VoiceOver+J is >>>>>> not an option. >>>>>> >>>>>> Presently, I press the [ENTER] key on my keyboard to open threaded >>>>>> messaging. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've tried pressing down on the TrackPad when the Message is selected >>>>>> but >>>>>> this does not cause the thread to open. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you in advance, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en> > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en> > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en> > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en> > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en> > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en> > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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