I too will be switching to I works rather than working with Microsoft Products in the future.
Kawal Gucukoglu On 27 Sep 2010, at 12:53 AM, gkearney <[email protected]> wrote: > It is interesting to note that the ribbons were accessible, much of > the user interface is as well. It is the main content areas that are > not accessible. > > Greg > > On Sep 27, 6:16 am, "Dave Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote: >> I bet that if they tried, they would soon realise that the ribbons would be >> difficult if not impossible to implement with VO anyway. As it is, their >> insistence on these awful things is one of my key drivers for making the >> switch, though there are many others too. Mike, the podcast where you >> install Snow Leopard is as good a demonstration as anything of how far >> things have come on the Mac side, I'm afraid it is the opposite story, >> almost the reverse story, on the windows side! >> >> Cheers >> Dave >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo >> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:03 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver >> >> I don't think he said it was a beta. It is very disappointing indeed, >> really, Microsoft has no excuse for this one, it's not like they were not >> aware of accessibility and voice over, they just chose not to do anything >> with it. Apple has created a built in screen reader and provided the APIs to >> make programs accessible, Microsoft has definitely shown their interest in >> this. At least on the mac, there are alternatives that will handle Microsoft >> Office files, namely iwork and open office. >> On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >>> Hello Greg, >> >>> Thank you so much for providing this info. >> >>> I cannot begin to relay how sad and disappointed I am at the news of >>> Microsoft's Office 2011 VoiceOver inaccessibility. >> >>> Wow! >> >>> You know, when I installed the very first beta of Windows 7, it was >>> completely accessible. That is to say, as soon as one launched the >>> installation program for Windows 7, a very clear voice prompt asked if >> audio >>> assistance was required. This came as a total surprise to me, to say the >>> least. I answered in the affirmative and was able to install Windows 7 >>> without any sighted assistance, whatsoever. I installed that first beta >> on >>> three of my computers. By the way, the voice that was used to guide me >>> through the setup was not that of Narrator--it was much clearer. >> >>> Astonishingly, with the release of the next beta of Windows 7, this >> feature >>> was removed. I was shocked, disappointed, and angry, to say the least. >> >>> It was then that I began considering purchasing a Macintosh. >> >>> It's been much too long to recall how I came to learn Microsoft's reason >> for >>> removing this feature but they said they removed it for security concerns; >>> to which I exclaim, "TommyRot!!!!!" Or, to put it in the vernacular, >>> "That's a load of crap!!!!" >> >>> Greg, is it possible that the final release of Office 2011 will be >> VoiceOver >>> accessible? I mean, you reviewed a beta, did you not? Perhaps I'm just >>> grasping at straws, eh? (Smile) >> >>> Thanks again for giving us a proverbial "heads-up" on this one. >> >>> Most Sincerely, >> >>> mark >>> - >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney >>> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:22 AM >>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]; Mary Beth >>> Janes; Mike Shebanek >>> Subject: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver >> >>> It is my sad duty to report that after getting a chance to test Microsoft >>> Office 2011 for Mac that it is no more accessible in this version than in >>> any of the previous versions. As in the past it is impossible to interact >>> with any of the content areas of the program. You are not able to review, >>> read or edit the text area in Word or Excel. >> >>> It should not be clear to all that Microsoft has no intention of ever >> fixing >>> these issues. I communicated directly with Microsoft over the same failing >>> in Office 2008. The fact that after a complete rewire of the programs they >>> remain inaccessible to the built in screen reader of the OS to me speak >>> volumes about Microsoft's total lack of commitment to accessibility on the >>> Macintosh platform and may well speak to Microsoft's general commitment to >>> the platform as well. >> >>> Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media >>> Association for the Blind of WA - Guide Dogs WA >>> PO Box 101, Victoria Park WA 6979 | 61 Kitchener Ave, Victoria Park WA >> 6100 >>> Tel: 08 9311 8246 | Fax: 08 9361 8696 |www.guidedogswa.com.au >>> Tel: 307-224-4022 (North America) >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Email: [email protected] >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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