Them's fighting words.  Don't mess with the brooklyn accentt!

On Oct 16, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> I have to say that I liked Heather when I heard her on my Winmo phone, but 
> when I downloaded the Asistiveware voices, her Brooklyn accent drove me 
> absolutely nuts!! (No offense to anyone here).  But it was a noticeable 
> change from what I had heard previously.  Maybe guys just like her b/c they 
> want to date her. :)
> Take care,
> Donna
> On Oct 16, 2010, at 12:10 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Hi,  Alex is really new, and the other voices that come with mac are really 
>> legacy.  I suspect breathing wasn't even a consideration when the older 
>> voices were being developed.  I've got alex running so fast here, that I 
>> never even notice him breathing.
>> 
>> As far as Samantha, she is just about the snottiest manliest woman I have 
>> ever heard.  If she came up to me and said, "can I help you sir?", I'd be 
>> tempted to punch her in the nose.  She sounds like she smokes way too much.  
>> Aside from just generally not liking her attitude, I find all the nuance 
>> voices a bit choppy, and I find they don't distinguish properly between b's 
>> p's and V's, or d's and T's, or S's and F's.  Tom's especially bad for that. 
>>  I don't know how most people stand him.  Karen at least has a nice sounding 
>> voice tone, and I can live with the fact that she's australian.  
>> 
>> The acapela voices are absolutely great.  They have amazing tone and 
>> inflection, they are nearly as smooth as alex.  They just sound fantasttic.  
>> It would be nice to date heather just once.  You know, I really should get 
>> out more if this is how I'm thinking about my computer.
>> 
>> Have fun,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> User support consultant,
>> One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in 
>> person,
>> 1-888-255-5194
>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2010-10-16, at 11:30 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>> 
>>> Eric:
>>> On the subject of  voiceover voicing, how come they only give breathing 
>>> capability to Alex?  Also, I wonder why the other voices they have seem so 
>>> weak by comparison?  Finally, in defense of Samaantha, I like her voice.  
>>> it seems to me to be the strongest option besides Alex; at least on the 
>>> iPhone.  On the mac, if she's there under another name, she's not as 
>>> strong.  As a hearing impaired person, I've found the voicing on the iPad 
>>> the easiest of all of the Apple voices to understand.  But, that's just me. 
>>>  
>>> I'm interested in other people's thoughts on this.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Carolyn Haas
>>> [email protected]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2010, at 6:33 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'd like to see better html5 support.  It's working more or less, but it 
>>>> could be better.  Improved calendar and garage band accessibility.  and a 
>>>> female voice just so as I could change it up once in a while.  If they 
>>>> outsource voices from nuance I'm going to scream.  There's no reason to 
>>>> buy aweful when we have acapela which is far better.  If they would 
>>>> licence acapela I'd be right there, but please please please save me from 
>>>> samantha.
>>>> 
>>>> Grade two braille input is a must.  I also want the magnification to go up 
>>>> to 10 times without pixalating.  The magnification stuff has got to 
>>>> improve to a point where it's on a par with the rest of voiceover.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>>> User support consultant,
>>>> One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in 
>>>> person,
>>>> 1-888-255-5194
>>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 2010-10-15, at 1:43 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I would really love to see other voices in other languages and that they 
>>>>> ditched those trinoids, good news, bad news, boing and other nonsence 
>>>>> voices that belonged in the days when they didn't really know what to do 
>>>>> with synthetic speech, because they hadn't a screen reader then. 
>>>>> Nowadays, there is Voiceover so then other voices in other languages are 
>>>>> more appropriate, especially since the screen reader itself is actually 
>>>>> localized into other languages than english.
>>>>> Other than that, i would love to see a better translation to Swedish of 
>>>>> Voiceover and the feature that the old Outspoken had, namely theability 
>>>>> to know where the cursor was, by hearing a beep when you spell a word, so 
>>>>> that if you had the word "browser" for example and you are in the middle 
>>>>> of the word, just between the "w" and "s", you could hear "b r o w beep s 
>>>>> e r" and if you then went one step to the right with the cursor, it'd go 
>>>>> "b r o w s beep e r" and so on.
>>>>> Permanent hot spots savable on a per application basis would also be nice.
>>>>> And i totally agree with more accessibility of the ILife suite would be 
>>>>> wonderful.
>>>>> /Krister
>>>>> 
>>>>> 15 okt 2010 kl. 19.25 skrev Daniel Rowe:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As you might be aware, apple are holding a "Back To The Mac" event next 
>>>>>> Wednesday at 10 eastern in Cupertino, California.  There are rumours of 
>>>>>> possible upgrades to the MacBook Air and also the unveiling of MAC OS X 
>>>>>> 10.7.
>>>>>> So, what would you like to see included in next  version of the OS, 
>>>>>> either generally or VoiceOver specific?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Personally, I'd like to see  a female voice that is as good as Alex, and 
>>>>>> to have voices in other languages even if it meant licensing them from 
>>>>>> nuance as they have done in iOS.
>>>>>> Accessibility improvements to garage band would be welcome, as well as 
>>>>>> making iWeb accessible.
>>>>>> The last major thing I can think of is to finally fix the issue of VO 
>>>>>> randomly resetting itself.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm sure they'll come up with a load of things I haven't even thought 
>>>>>> of.  So what do you all think?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dannie
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