Hi Kimberly,

Robert's correct that if you're having difficulty getting your mp3 files to play in order, it's probably because of missing tags. iTunes uses as a minimal set of tags the song name, artist, and album. If you have no tag information in your tracks, it will make the song name from the file name. For example, let's say you imported files from five audiobook CDS with no tag information onto your PC, and these are now in folders named "My Audiobook" with subfolders named "Disc 1", "Disc 2", up through "Disc 5", and the individual tracks in each folder have names like file001.mp3, file002.mp3, etc. You add these files to iTunes. Because there is no album tag name, all these tracks get added to an album titled "Unknown Album" under a folder for "Unknown Artist". If you select "Unknown Album" and the tracks are sorted they'll be ordered by name, with each of the "file001" tracks from Discs 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 appearing first, then the "file002" tracks from these 5 discs, etc.

If you add the tracks a folder at a time, starting from disc 1 and proceeding in order through discs 2, 3, etc., then then if you check the smart playlist named "Recently Added", which lists all files that were added to your iTunes library within the last two weeks (excluding subscribed podcasts), in the order in which they were added, then you might find that these tracks play in the correct order if you play from the smart playlist. (By that I mean, select "Recently Added" in the sources table of iTunes, then use VO-Command-T to jump to the songs table if you have the latest iTunes. Navigate with your arrow keys to the first track from your audiobook and press return to start playing. If you then Command-Right arrow to move through the tracks in sequence, are they playing in the correct order? Press space bar to stop playing. If so, you can fix the tagging from the "Recently Added" playlist. In the case I described, you should have a bunch of tracks named "file001" through some number (e.g., "file025") appearing in succession for each disc (corresponding to "Disc 1", "Disc 2", up through "Disc 5"). You want to select these blocks of tracks in order and edit their tag information with "Get Info" (Command-I). This is actually easier to do as you add tracks a folder at a time, instead of after the fact, but it's doable if you "Recently Added" tracks play in the correct order. You want to start positioned at the first track of Disc 5, for example, then hold down your shift key and press the down arrow key until you've selected all the tracks of Disc 5. Then, release the shift key and press Command-I to edit the tracks. You'll be asked whether you want to edit multiple tracks. You do, so proceed. Select the Info Tab (with VO-Space), if it isn't already selected by default. Now fill in the Artist (Author's) name in the first text box. Then VO-Right arrow to the text box for Album and type in the title of the Audiobook. VO-Right arrow again on the same line to where you'll hear VoiceOver say "Disc Number, edit text" and type in "5" or whatever the disc number is. Then VO-Right arrow again to the text box for "Disc Count, edit text" and type in "5" for the total number of discs (or if you have 6 or 7 discs in the audiobook, use the appropriate number). Then VO-Right arrow to the end of the "OK" button and press it with VO-Space.

Filling in the Album name and Disc number (1 of 5, 2 of 5, etc.) should fix your ordering problem if your individual track file names for that disc are otherwise in order (e.g. file001, file002, file003, etc.). If the audiobook is sorted in album order, iTunes will know that the tracks for disc 1 should come before the tracks for disc 2 in the same album, even if your track names are all the same. You only need to fill in the text boxes for names and numbers in the Get Info dialog window. The entries before them are check boxes, which will automatically get filled in if you type anything in the text boxes. Artist name is not strictly necessary to sort your ordering problem, but is good practice for helping you search iTunes later.

Please note that I'm making assumptions about how your audiobook files are named (or not named). Since I don't use untagged files myself, I'm just guessing about this, and you might want to proceed with caution and experiment.

I'd also recommend that you might want to get a software program like Splasm Software's Audiobook Builder, on sale for half price today (next 7.5 hours) at $4.99 at the MacUpdate Promo site:

http://www.mupromo.com/

(This requires negotiating a CAPTCHA to create your account the first time. You can use the services of Solona at:
http://www.solona.net/
to handle this one-time need.)

If you still have a Windows machine, you can use Chapter and Verse:
http://lodensoftware.com/chapter-and-verse/

The Blind Side has a podcast on how to use Chapter and Verse:

http://blind-side.net/node/10

These programs combined multiple audiobook parts into a single file. However, even the Chapter and Verse Windows program uses iTunes to convert and join, so you still have to sort out your tags.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther




On Oct 27, 2010, Robert Hooper wrote:

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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: MP3 Books on the iPod Touch and iTunes

Hi,
While we're on this topic, can you play audiobooks at double speed on the Ipod Touch, if so, how?
Courtney


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On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

And just how should I edit the tag information?  I changed the genre
to
audiobook in two different places under get info. Why do the files then end up out of order even when they are numbered files and the numbers are in the file names.
On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:

It doesn't have anything to do with the new version of iTunes. Make
sure
that you have correctly edited the tag information of the files. Sometimes it can be a bit tedious, but if you're not going to convert the files to .m4b, double checking the tag information is your best bet.

Hope that helps,
Joshua
On Oct 27, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

HI Folks:

We have discussed this here before, but I'm having some issues with it.
I want to play a folder of MP3 files, which are ripped from CD audiobooks on my iPod. I know that I must add the files to my iTunes library. I thin find them in iTunes, select them all, and do VO/shift/M and chose get info. In there I change the genre to audiobook and then go to the options tab and change it to audiobook there as well. I choose not to include while shuffling. The book then shows up in the books portion of iTunes, but the title became Unknown and the MP3 files were all in the wrong order.

What am I doing wrong here?  Does it have something to do with the
new
version of iTunes? What are the check boxes for that are now present just before the track titles?

TIA for any help here.  I really want to play these books on my
Touch,
but it is a pain when they are out of order. Audible books work just fine, however.


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