Hello Frank,

If you don't need to see how words are spelt or anything like that, I would 
recommend GhostReader from ConvenienceWare. Using this application is like 
listening to a tape recording but with a bit more control.

It has the standard Play, Pause, Resume, Rewind and Fast forward controls, but 
in addition, you can jump forward by sentence or paragraph, or jump to the 
beginning of the current sentence or paragraph.

The down side is that you can't examine the text to check on the spelling of 
names or whatever. However, you could use the sidebar in Preview to find 
specific pieces of text you need to examine closely, while doing the bulk of 
the reading with GhostReader.

Cheers,

Anne


On 6 Dec 2010, at 16:54, Frank Carmickle wrote:

> Hello
> 
> Does anyone know if there have been any improvements.  This problem is 
> killing me.  I have a 1200 page document that I need to read and this keeps 
> being a huge pain.  I will certainly be logging out and turning VO on and 
> off.  Also remembering to turn off cursor tracking will certainly find me at 
> the top of the document in no time for I'm sure that I will forget and ...  
> Any other pdf reading apps that may do better?
> 
> Thanks
> --FC
> 
> On May 11, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Olivia,
>> 
>> You need to set a hot spot if you want to go back to the same location in 
>> Preview after shifting to another app. Before you navigate away from 
>> Preview, press VO-Shift-1 (or any other number key that you want to assign 
>> to th hot spot).  You'll hear VoiceOver say, "Save as hotspot 1". Then, you 
>> can switch applications with Command-tab, do something else, and when you 
>> return to Preview press VO-1 to get back to your hot spot location so you 
>> can resume reading where you left off.  This is a workaround, and the hot 
>> spot won't be saved if you have to restart VoiceOver or if you log out.
>> 
>> This is a bug in Preview.  Preview is one of the few apps that, at least 
>> with respect to VoiceOver Navigation and focus on this point, behaved better 
>> in Tiger than in Leopard.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On 11 May 2010, at 09:56, olivia norman wrote:
>> 
>>> Interesting. I also find that I loose focus when I navigate to another 
>>> application. For instance, if I am reading a PDF in prieview, and go to 
>>> text edit to take notes on what I'm reading, when I return to the PDF, I am 
>>> placed back at the beginning of the document.  This makes reading articles 
>>> a frustrating experience at times.  Is there a work around for this?
>>> Thanks!
>>> Olivia
>>> On May 11, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Esther wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> As Marie says, the key is interacting with the text in Preview.  If you 
>>>> can't read continuously after interacting, check your PDF Display settings 
>>>> under the View menu on Preview's menu bar (VO-M to the menu bar, press "V" 
>>>> to go to the View menu, arrow down, press "P" to go to PDF Display, right 
>>>> arrow to the submenu, then arrow down to see which display mode is 
>>>> checked.  The default is "Single Page Continuous".  If "Single Page" is 
>>>> checked, VoiceOver will stop reading at the end of each page.  This 
>>>> setting can be useful if, for some reason your PDF book starts reading 
>>>> each page in the middle due to a conversion or format problem.
>>>> 
>>>> In Preview you can Command-Right arrow to move to the next page, 
>>>> Command-Left arrow to move the previous page.  Also, if your PDF supports 
>>>> Table of Contents organization, and you have navigated and interacted with 
>>>> the Outline View where the contents are listed and selected a section 
>>>> (e.g., for one of the Take Control guides, after downloading and opening 
>>>> the eBook in Preview, tab to "Outline View, Table, no selection";  
>>>> interact, and select a section, then stop interacting and VO-Left arrow to 
>>>> the main document section of Preview, you can then use  Command-Up arrow 
>>>> to move to the start of the previous chapter and Command-Down arrow to 
>>>> move the start of the next chapter.  These correspond to the places you 
>>>> would select by navigating up and down in the Outline View.  If the 
>>>> sidebar is not showing "Outline" view, but is instead displaying 
>>>> "thumbnails" or "search results" because you used Command-F to find a 
>>>> string in the document, you can use item chooser menu to search for "Menu 
>>>> Button" (e.g., VO-I, then type "b u t", press return, and arrow down to 
>>>> the selection and either press return or VO-Space), then bring up the 
>>>> contextual menu (VO-Shift-M) and arrow up to "Table of Contents".  VO-Up 
>>>> arrow to the Outline view, interact, and select a section from the 
>>>> contents.  This only works if the PDF document was constructed with a 
>>>> viewable table of contents -- you won't find this menu option in PDF files 
>>>> you simply create by printing with Command-P and saving to PDF.
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