Frank:
Can you put it into pages?

Carolyn
On Dec 6, 2010, at 8:54 AM, Frank Carmickle wrote:

> Hello
> 
> Does anyone know if there have been any improvements.  This problem is 
> killing me.  I have a 1200 page document that I need to read and this keeps 
> being a huge pain.  I will certainly be logging out and turning VO on and 
> off.  Also remembering to turn off cursor tracking will certainly find me at 
> the top of the document in no time for I'm sure that I will forget and ...  
> Any other pdf reading apps that may do better?
> 
> Thanks
> --FC
> 
> On May 11, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Olivia,
>> 
>> You need to set a hot spot if you want to go back to the same location in 
>> Preview after shifting to another app. Before you navigate away from 
>> Preview, press VO-Shift-1 (or any other number key that you want to assign 
>> to th hot spot).  You'll hear VoiceOver say, "Save as hotspot 1". Then, you 
>> can switch applications with Command-tab, do something else, and when you 
>> return to Preview press VO-1 to get back to your hot spot location so you 
>> can resume reading where you left off.  This is a workaround, and the hot 
>> spot won't be saved if you have to restart VoiceOver or if you log out.
>> 
>> This is a bug in Preview.  Preview is one of the few apps that, at least 
>> with respect to VoiceOver Navigation and focus on this point, behaved better 
>> in Tiger than in Leopard.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On 11 May 2010, at 09:56, olivia norman wrote:
>> 
>>> Interesting. I also find that I loose focus when I navigate to another 
>>> application. For instance, if I am reading a PDF in prieview, and go to 
>>> text edit to take notes on what I'm reading, when I return to the PDF, I am 
>>> placed back at the beginning of the document.  This makes reading articles 
>>> a frustrating experience at times.  Is there a work around for this?
>>> Thanks!
>>> Olivia
>>> On May 11, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Esther wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> As Marie says, the key is interacting with the text in Preview.  If you 
>>>> can't read continuously after interacting, check your PDF Display settings 
>>>> under the View menu on Preview's menu bar (VO-M to the menu bar, press "V" 
>>>> to go to the View menu, arrow down, press "P" to go to PDF Display, right 
>>>> arrow to the submenu, then arrow down to see which display mode is 
>>>> checked.  The default is "Single Page Continuous".  If "Single Page" is 
>>>> checked, VoiceOver will stop reading at the end of each page.  This 
>>>> setting can be useful if, for some reason your PDF book starts reading 
>>>> each page in the middle due to a conversion or format problem.
>>>> 
>>>> In Preview you can Command-Right arrow to move to the next page, 
>>>> Command-Left arrow to move the previous page.  Also, if your PDF supports 
>>>> Table of Contents organization, and you have navigated and interacted with 
>>>> the Outline View where the contents are listed and selected a section 
>>>> (e.g., for one of the Take Control guides, after downloading and opening 
>>>> the eBook in Preview, tab to "Outline View, Table, no selection";  
>>>> interact, and select a section, then stop interacting and VO-Left arrow to 
>>>> the main document section of Preview, you can then use  Command-Up arrow 
>>>> to move to the start of the previous chapter and Command-Down arrow to 
>>>> move the start of the next chapter.  These correspond to the places you 
>>>> would select by navigating up and down in the Outline View.  If the 
>>>> sidebar is not showing "Outline" view, but is instead displaying 
>>>> "thumbnails" or "search results" because you used Command-F to find a 
>>>> string in the document, you can use item chooser menu to search for "Menu 
>>>> Button" (e.g., VO-I, then type "b u t", press return, and arrow down to 
>>>> the selection and either press return or VO-Space), then bring up the 
>>>> contextual menu (VO-Shift-M) and arrow up to "Table of Contents".  VO-Up 
>>>> arrow to the Outline view, interact, and select a section from the 
>>>> contents.  This only works if the PDF document was constructed with a 
>>>> viewable table of contents -- you won't find this menu option in PDF files 
>>>> you simply create by printing with Command-P and saving to PDF.
> 
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