A detailed search for the problems listed in the crash report indicate a memory leak involving several libraries. audio hijack pro I can do without. unfortunately, once its installed, its pretty hard to find all its components and remove them. right now though, I don't have a sufficiently large enough backup drive to backup all my data to. so, a reinstall is not possible currently.
-Eric On Mar 15, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote: > Erick, that's very unfortunate. > I know that growl causes some problems with Voice over and the way that audio > hijack pro intercepts sound may cause problems as well. > If however, you say that you are experiencing this behavior even before > install applications, have you thought of this being something hardware > related? > Just a thought. > > Nektarios. > > On Mar 15, 2011, at 8:05 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > >> I wish I was overstating the problem. >> as for installed utilities. I have soundflower, audio hijack pro, growl, >> Skype and adium. I can tell you, the issues started even from a clean >> install before having any of these utilities/applications installed. I have >> included one of the crash handler reports as an attached text file. this >> happens 5 or 6 times a day. >> >> -Eric >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 15, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote: >> >>> Well well, even if you didn't before, now you are definitely overstating >>> things and rather badly. >>> As we can tell from the various posts about this subject, there are many >>> people on this list who don't have the problem and especially with the >>> frequency and behavior you are describing. >>> Du to the way you are describing your experience with Mac OS, and the >>> attitude you have towards this situation I have to ask. >>> Have you considered that you may have installed something yourself that >>> compromises the stability of Voice Over or your system in general? >>> Finally, I would rather press command + f5 a couple of times to get Voice >>> Over back, if that ever happens to me, than use a poorly written, overly >>> expensive trash like Jaws. >>> >>> Nektarios. >>> >>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 8:43 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: >>> >>>> zack, >>>> I am definitely NOT overstating the problem here. I get random failures, >>>> and not just in mail either. It happens so often that I am seriously >>>> considering dumping OS X and installing VINUX. This problem has been >>>> occurring with such frequency that I might as well keep my machine off >>>> then use it (more than 20 times a day). I use this machine as often as I >>>> do because I simply don't have a windows machine and my powerbook is linux >>>> only now (no voiceover support for 10.3.9). >>>> >>>> so, I am left with a choice of having to dump an OS I paid for on a $800 >>>> machine and do without some of the tools I use daily or spend another >>>> $1,500 to $2,000 for a fully outfitted windows machine with JAWS. since I >>>> don't have the money, I don't see a lot of choices. >>>> >>>> -Eric >>>> >>>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Eric, >>>>> I think you're overstating the case a bit here... Yes, it's annoying, >>>>> but I haven't found it that annoying. I haven't experienced it as often >>>>> as others here seem to, and the times I have, a quick command-f5 or two >>>>> solves it. Yes, let's email accessibility about this, but let's not >>>>> loose our sense of perspective. It could be much worse, we could be >>>>> stuck on Windows with a screen reader not built into the OS, which when >>>>> it freezes requires us to reboot the system completely. I'll stop now. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Zack. >>>>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> this has been a known problem since the inception of snow leopard. I >>>>>> have seen it on all versions 10.6.x and it hasn't gotten any better with >>>>>> time. it appears that it may be a memory leak or a broken library. in >>>>>> any case, it is annoying as hell. I have sent many notices to >>>>>> accessibility. its gotten bad enough that I may start sending bug >>>>>> reports to steve jobs directly. perhaps he'll give the dev team a swift >>>>>> kick in the pants to make this a priority,. perhaps if more of us would >>>>>> do so, it would garner enough attention that apple Inc. would have to do >>>>>> something about this problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Eric >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Robert, although the problem is annoying, this approach you described >>>>>>> might at least be a usable work-around. I will try it the next time >>>>>>> Voice Over abandons me. Thank you very much. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To all of you who wrote, thank you. Sometimes, the only way to recover >>>>>>> has been to just hit the Power key, wait a second or so and then just >>>>>>> press Enter. Not an elegant solution, but at least it has worked since >>>>>>> "Shut Down" is the default selection in this dialogue.. I will >>>>>>> definitely post a message to the Accessibility Group, apprising them of >>>>>>> something they probably already know by now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My best to all and thanks again, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 14,Mar,2011, at 4:50 PM, Robert Carter wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have this problem on my MacBook as well. I find that the easiest way >>>>>>>> to get VoiceOver restarted is to press control+option+command+f8. This >>>>>>>> starts the VoiceOver tutorial. As soon as the tutorial starts, press >>>>>>>> escape and VoiceOver will restart. I hope this problem gets fixed soon. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It must be unique to the MacBooks as I cannot produce the problem on >>>>>>>> my iMac. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Robert Carter >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am using Snow Leopard V 10.6.6 on a Mac Book with 4 GB/RAM. For >>>>>>>>> reasons I do not understand, I occasionally lose Voice Over, >>>>>>>>> especially when I am using Mail. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Though the problem is not limited to Mail, Voice Over just seems to >>>>>>>>> "unload itself," and the only thing I can do is repeatedly hit >>>>>>>>> Command F5 until VO decides to make an appearance. Its disappearance >>>>>>>>> is apparently random, i.e. I can't make it disappear at will. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Has anyone else encountered this problem? If not, what might be >>>>>>>>> causing it? 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