Hi there,

Just a thought, would it still be worth going to the Apple Store and explaining 
the problem to see what they say?  I have heard that there are some occasions 
where Apple has made a replacement even though your Apple care is no longer 
valid.  Just thought it might be worth looking into.  Good luck.

Chris 
On Mar 16, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:

> I have the problem I though tit was just a normal screw up but nw i am 
> wondering  is there a comon thread t these problems such as what hardware e 
> run  a friend of mine had the issues and apple replaces his 13 inch macbook 
> pro with a new i 5 version.  He o longer hs the issue  I have the older 13 
> inch macbook pro with 4 gigs of memory and the issues is so bad sometimes i 
> can't even scroll through my stuff on my hard drive without it crashig 
> several times a day. O fcurse i am out of warrenty and could not afford to 
> get apple care to extend it. i also can not empty the trash even with secure 
> empty trash evn after repairing disk permissins and directory structure. a 
> trip to appl enow would be expensive i'm sure. I wonder if we can how, if it 
> is true, that this is a problem with specific hardware. If that is the case 
> perhaps apple will decide it's int her best intrest to replace some machines. 
> I relaly find it upsetting that voiceover sems to be less stable than jaws, 
> and the problem seems to be getting worse
> 
> On Mar 16, 2011, at 12:05 AM, carolyn Haas wrote:
> 
>> Hi Andre:
>> Well, I guess another plot is in order then, since Watson isn't deducing 
>> much on this front.
>> 
>> I'm only running with 2gig memory, and I don't know that I need a lot more.  
>> I think the standard now is generally 4.  But, so far it hasn't been an 
>> issue.  It does cause me to clean things up more often, just to conserve 
>> space though.:) And that's not a bad thing.
>> Take care
>> 
>> Carolyn H
>> 
>> On Mar 15, 2011, at 5:00 PM, Andre Nuno Soares Not guaranteeing anything but 
>> thought it worth the C.


>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2011, at 1:00 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Andre:
>>>> I really haven't had that issue show up, and I mostly use sleep mode for 
>>>> my mbp.  So, that wouldn't support this theory.  But, I can sure empathize 
>>>> with how frustrating it would be.  And, I hope the accessibility team and 
>>>> the development engineers can ferret out the cause.
>>> 
>>> Oh man! And I already sent an email to IBM to see if Watson wanted to share 
>>> a flat in Baker Street :-)
>>> 
>>> Seriously, that does seem to point to a different cause. The hang doesn't 
>>> happen very often on my Mac, so I haven't really paid enough attention to 
>>> the MacOS state when it does..
>>> BTW, do you have 4 GB of RAM on your MBP or more?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> André
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