Hi,

can you clarify just what you mean about text documents and tables? As I see it, there are no tables in text documents. there are elements of text with elements of white space between.

Are you talking about some sort of smart column recognition as in OCR programs? No Screenreader does that, and I'm not entirely sure it should.

If, however, you mean properly rendering table markup as in xml/html ... and other file formats, then it is definitely a step backward for this feature to not be implemented in 10.7 since it works better in VO than in most other screenreaders I've used.

Doubtless my confusion.

Joel




On 4/7/2011 7:35 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
Hi William,

thanks for your responds.

I don't think that it's very likely that VO will recognize tables in iWorks 11. 
Also: VoiceOver should work with tables in all accessible editors. I want to 
use all accessible programed editors with VO, also the free ones like Bean.

Thank you for your report to Apple.

All the best
Jürgen

Am 07.04.2011 um 08:47 schrieb William Windels:

Hello Jürgen,
Thanx for this announcement.
I'll report this for shore because this seems simply unacceptable in 2011.
I hope a lot of others will do so.
But also a litle remark:
It isn't perhaps macosx that needs this feature but the particular programs 
like textedit and pages.
I mean, perhaps they will add this functionality in iworks 11, (the next major 
version).

So, for all, pls , report  what you think about it to accessibility.

Best regards,
William
Op 6-apr-2011, om 22:40 heeft Jürgen Fleger het volgende geschreven:

Hi All,

a friend told me VO still doesn't work with tables in text documents in Lion 
beta 2 what came out these days. As you all surely know tables in text 
documents are a huge issue working with VoiceOver.

I think this is awful and unworthy to VoiceOver. VO is really a great screen 
reader but it seems not to be tolerable in 2011 that a screen reader doesn't 
work with tables.

So I'll ask all of you to write an e-mail to
[email protected]
to show that a lot of people are waiting for the ability of VO to recognize 
tables in text documents.

In lots of discussions people told me "What? VoiceOver doesn't recognize tables in 
text documents? So VO might not be a serious screen reader."

But that's not true, as we all know. And so my hope is when enough people write 
an e-mail to Apple and ask for that functionallity, Apple might see that it is 
really important to us.

Thanks and
all the best
Jürgen

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