Hi Joel, sorry for confusing you. That might be because of my lack of english.
Imagine a normal bill for example. There you have normal text of course. But usually there is also a table with columns and rows in what you find for example "Name of Article", "Prize", "Tax" and so forth. Isn't that just called a table in english? I'm not sure. The direct translation is table. I hope I could clarify what I ment and you are going to write an e-mail to accessibil...@apple.com to tell them that this is not acceptable for us users. Thanks Jürgen Am 07.04.2011 um 17:32 schrieb Joel Zimba: > Hi, > > can you clarify just what you mean about text documents and tables? As I > see it, there are no tables in text documents. there are elements of text > with elements of white space between. > > Are you talking about some sort of smart column recognition as in OCR > programs? No Screenreader does that, and I'm not entirely sure it should. > > If, however, you mean properly rendering table markup as in xml/html ... and > other file formats, then it is definitely a step backward for this feature to > not be implemented in 10.7 since it works better in VO than in most other > screenreaders I've used. > > Doubtless my confusion. > > Joel > > > > > On 4/7/2011 7:35 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: >> Hi William, >> >> thanks for your responds. >> >> I don't think that it's very likely that VO will recognize tables in iWorks >> 11. Also: VoiceOver should work with tables in all accessible editors. I >> want to use all accessible programed editors with VO, also the free ones >> like Bean. >> >> Thank you for your report to Apple. >> >> All the best >> Jürgen >> >> Am 07.04.2011 um 08:47 schrieb William Windels: >> >>> Hello Jürgen, >>> Thanx for this announcement. >>> I'll report this for shore because this seems simply unacceptable in 2011. >>> I hope a lot of others will do so. >>> But also a litle remark: >>> It isn't perhaps macosx that needs this feature but the particular programs >>> like textedit and pages. >>> I mean, perhaps they will add this functionality in iworks 11, (the next >>> major version). >>> >>> So, for all, pls , report what you think about it to accessibility. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> William >>> Op 6-apr-2011, om 22:40 heeft Jürgen Fleger het volgende geschreven: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> a friend told me VO still doesn't work with tables in text documents in >>>> Lion beta 2 what came out these days. As you all surely know tables in >>>> text documents are a huge issue working with VoiceOver. >>>> >>>> I think this is awful and unworthy to VoiceOver. VO is really a great >>>> screen reader but it seems not to be tolerable in 2011 that a screen >>>> reader doesn't work with tables. >>>> >>>> So I'll ask all of you to write an e-mail to >>>> accessibil...@apple.com >>>> to show that a lot of people are waiting for the ability of VO to >>>> recognize tables in text documents. >>>> >>>> In lots of discussions people told me "What? VoiceOver doesn't recognize >>>> tables in text documents? So VO might not be a serious screen reader." >>>> >>>> But that's not true, as we all know. And so my hope is when enough people >>>> write an e-mail to Apple and ask for that functionallity, Apple might see >>>> that it is really important to us. >>>> >>>> Thanks and >>>> all the best >>>> Jürgen >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
