Ray,

That's great!  I hadn't gotten that scientific in my approach, yet.  I have 
started keeping a post, from time to time, that has something that I know I 
will refer to in the future.  I'm going to add this post to that file.

Again, thanks,

CJ


On May 24, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Yeah, that was what I sort of gathered too.  Bear in mind the fact that I do 
> not remember what the default low and high threshhold settings are.  The 
> forum I saw did not seem to reveal those.  Here's what my playing around with 
> the app seemed to reveal.
> 
> 1.  The lower you set the low threshhold, the more likely your fans are to 
> push harder to keep your GPU cooler.  That's because the lower threshhold 
> sets the trigger temperature at which the fans begin to come out of their 
> base RPM settings.  The trade off is that if you set the low threshhold at 
> 100%, the fans are more likely to stay at or else very close to the base RPM 
> settings.  That's because at the low threshhold settings, the fans are 
> triggered to come out of their base RPM's becaus that threshhold setting will 
> most always override the base RPM settings.  
> 
> 2.  The high threshhold setting is the setting at which the fans are 
> triggered in to their maximum number of possible RPM settings.  This is the 
> setting at which the temperature of the GPU is judged to be hot enough to 
> cause this trigger point to occur.  If this high threshhold is set all the 
> way down to 0% (158DegreesF) the fans will trigger to their maximum RPM 
> settings every single time you run an app or a process which pulls on the 
> GPU.  If, for example, you cause your GPU to attain a temperature of 
> 159DegreesF, and your high level threshhold is set to 0% on the slider, 
> (158DegreesF) the fans will be caused to assume their maximum number of RPM's 
> very rapidly.  
> 
>       In order to determin the best and most sensable settings for your fans 
> if using fan control, try the following method:
> 
> 1.  Launch Fan control.
> 
> 2.  Launch the app which you know pulls hardest on your GPU.
> 
> 3.  Within that app, begin the process which you know causes the hardest pull 
> on your GPU.
> 
> 4.  Now, command tap to the Fan control window and carefully monitor the 
> temperature progress bar which can be found next to the RPM bars of each of 
> your fans.  Note the highest temperature settings for each fan bar; or, if 
> your Mac has only one fan, monitor that temperature bar and do so very 
> closely.  Make note of the highest temperature attained.
> 
> 5.  Now, do the same for the normal stand by conditions you have when you're 
> just letting your Mac sit there or doing some light task which does not pull 
> hard on the GPU.
> 
> 6.  Now, armed with that data, Set your low threshhold to the percentage 
> which best matches that stand by temperature.
> 
> 7.  Now, taking your high temperature data you aquired earlier, set your high 
> threshhold to the point of percentage which best matches it.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
> On May 24, 2011, at 6:47 PM, CJ Daniel wrote:
> 
>> Ray,  
>> 
>> Thanks for sharing those settings.  In all these replies, I've sensed that 
>> some folks think their fans are only coming on when the machine is hot.  
>> Based on my research, my machine & a lot of posts on the subject elsewhere 
>> on the net, I'm pretty sure that what their perceiving as the fan coming on 
>> is actually the fan in High Threshold Mode @ really high RPM's.  When in 
>> fact, the sound probably associated with the laptop's general operations is 
>> the fan in normal mode.  
>> 
>> 
>> CJ
>> On May 24, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Yep.  Let me tell yuh, when you look at the teps your GPU is running at, 
>>> it's mighty frightening.  My lwo threshhold is set to 140Degrees f, and 
>>> that's the 100% setting on the slider.  My high threshhold is set to 60% 
>>> which is 180DegreesF.  The default base RPM setting is 2000, according to a 
>>> forum I looked at.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 24, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>>> 
>>>> C.J., thanks for this.  I will give it a look.  :)
>>>> On May 23, 2011, at 10:50 PM, CJ Daniel wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Kimberly,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since that post, I've figured out some of the answers.  First, 
>>>>> SMCFanControler doesn't work with VoiceOver.  But, FanControler version 
>>>>> 1.2 does.  I'd tried it earlier & couldn't figure where it disappeared 
>>>>> too, after the install.  I went back & did some more checking.  Well, 
>>>>> long story short, after it's installed it appears, as a button, in the 
>>>>> system's preferences.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> You simply click it & then you can set the base RPM for your fans, the 
>>>>> low range of temp @ which the fans cut in & the high range @ which they 
>>>>> go in to hyper drive.  It's working flawlessly & my machine is already 
>>>>> cooler.  I shudder to think @ what temp it has been running.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apparently, judging from all the posts that I found on the subject.  it's 
>>>>> a pretty common problem.  I'm going to do some more research & try 
>>>>> running my Mac on the AC power with out the battery installed.  If anyone 
>>>>> else has any other thoughts, then please join in.
>>>>> 
>>>>> CJ
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 23, 2011, at 7:33 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> My Macbook Pro only gets hot when I run Windows in VMware Fusion while I 
>>>>>> am also charging it.  Once it gets so hot, speech does tend to stutter.  
>>>>>> I have 8 gigs of ram and my unit is a late 2009 Macbook Pro 13 inch.  If 
>>>>>> I just run OSX, my MPB stays as cool as can be.
>>>>>> On May 23, 2011, at 9:47 PM, CJ Daniel wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My Macbook III Pro gets hot.  I'm talk'n hot!  I mean it's Saturday 
>>>>>>> night in Chicago in the Roaring 20's hot.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When it happens, the machine in general & VO in particular just don't 
>>>>>>> function so well.  So, I found a program called SMCFanControler.  
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, when I try to run the application, VO just tells me that 
>>>>>>> SMCFanControler doesn't have any windows.  Anyone else dealing with a 
>>>>>>> hot Mac, a nonfunctioning fan controller problem?  Inquiring minds & 
>>>>>>> burning hot pants want to know!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for any advice,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> CJ
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> P.S. Does anyone smell something burning?
>>>>>>> 
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