Let's be very clear here.  I am not speaking of turning off the trackpad but 
rather the VO trackpad commander.  

The three finger piinch with thumb is not a VO command but an OS one. 

In the Journey, 

Ron

On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Oh, how odd!  It is a trackpad gesture, but you have to have trackpad off.  
> That seems a little less than intuitive.  Thanks, wouldn't have figured that 
> one out.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Ronald McEwan wrote:
> 
>> It does not work if trackpad commander is turned on.  You would have to set 
>> up a gesture to do it. 
>> 
>> 
>> In the Journey, 
>> 
>> Ron
>> 
>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Ron, are there any caveats to this?  I hate to sound like a broken record, 
>>> but that's not working over here, either.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Ronald McEwan wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Pinch three fingers and thumb to bring up LaunchPad. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In the Journey, 
>>>> 
>>>> Ron
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I was under the impression that there was a mouse jesture while track pad 
>>>>> commander was disabled that a blind, or sighted person could do to slide 
>>>>> launchpad into view, but I can't for the life a me remember what it is.  
>>>>> does anyone remember?
>>>>>  
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>  
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Austin Seraphin
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:48 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Launchpad
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know about worthless. I actually think it might have some cool 
>>>>> potential. It does have a few differences than a standard grid view. 
>>>>> Firstly, in theory, you can drag and drop applications like in iOS. This 
>>>>> includes dropping one application on top of another to form a folder. 
>>>>> Many blind people already know about this from having an iDevice. I'd 
>>>>> kind of like a nice home screen or three with some cool folders. The 
>>>>> launchpad also has another interesting feature: in addition to looking in 
>>>>> /Applications (off the root), it also looks in ~/Applications (off the 
>>>>> home directory). I could imagine some interesting uses for that. But as 
>>>>> you've pointed out elsewhere, we have several quite handy ways to launch 
>>>>> applications.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  - Austin
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yup,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It works its just worthless.  lol.  Its just basically viewing apps in a 
>>>>>> grid view.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>>>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>> There was a post on this list from someone who said that launchpad 
>>>>>>> doesn't seem to be a very useful tool for blind folks, and then he 
>>>>>>> detailed some of his reasons.
>>>>>>> Mary Otten
>>>>>>> motte...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> 
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