Got it, Ron. Thanks.
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On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Ronald McEwan wrote:

> Let's be very clear here.  I am not speaking of turning off the trackpad but 
> rather the VO trackpad commander.  
> 
> The three finger piinch with thumb is not a VO command but an OS one. 
> 
> In the Journey, 
> 
> Ron
> 
> On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Oh, how odd!  It is a trackpad gesture, but you have to have trackpad off.  
>> That seems a little less than intuitive.  Thanks, wouldn't have figured that 
>> one out.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Ronald McEwan wrote:
>> 
>>> It does not work if trackpad commander is turned on.  You would have to set 
>>> up a gesture to do it. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In the Journey, 
>>> 
>>> Ron
>>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ron, are there any caveats to this?  I hate to sound like a broken record, 
>>>> but that's not working over here, either.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Ronald McEwan wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Pinch three fingers and thumb to bring up LaunchPad. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the Journey, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ron
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was under the impression that there was a mouse jesture while track 
>>>>>> pad commander was disabled that a blind, or sighted person could do to 
>>>>>> slide launchpad into view, but I can't for the life a me remember what 
>>>>>> it is.  does anyone remember?
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Austin Seraphin
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:48 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Launchpad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't know about worthless. I actually think it might have some cool 
>>>>>> potential. It does have a few differences than a standard grid view. 
>>>>>> Firstly, in theory, you can drag and drop applications like in iOS. This 
>>>>>> includes dropping one application on top of another to form a folder. 
>>>>>> Many blind people already know about this from having an iDevice. I'd 
>>>>>> kind of like a nice home screen or three with some cool folders. The 
>>>>>> launchpad also has another interesting feature: in addition to looking 
>>>>>> in /Applications (off the root), it also looks in ~/Applications (off 
>>>>>> the home directory). I could imagine some interesting uses for that. But 
>>>>>> as you've pointed out elsewhere, we have several quite handy ways to 
>>>>>> launch applications.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  - Austin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yup,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It works its just worthless.  lol.  Its just basically viewing apps in 
>>>>>>> a grid view.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>>>> There was a post on this list from someone who said that launchpad 
>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to be a very useful tool for blind folks, and then he 
>>>>>>>> detailed some of his reasons.
>>>>>>>> Mary Otten
>>>>>>>> motte...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> 
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