After seeing your message, I'm ready to cave and ask my question. What is the 
best way to revert to Snow Leopard. I used CCC
to backup my drive right before I bought Lion, and I know that drive works 
perfectly. My main concern is getting rid of
Lion's recovery partician if I revert. Would I boot from my external drive, 
format the mac's internal drive and then clone
the external drive back onto it? I don't want to try reverting without clear 
instructions, but ever since I got lion, as much
as I like the new voices, I just don't like anything else about it, so would 
like to give it another chance once some of the
bugs have been sorted.
I have another external drive handy, so might back lion up onto that so that 
I'll have all the voices ready to go whenever
I'm ready to give it another chance, but for the time being, I honestly think 
I'd be happier reverting; I just need to know
the best, safest way to do it that will insure getting rid of lion's recovery 
partician.
Thanks!
Missy


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Chris Snyder
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 2:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues

Well said. Apple will sort it out. Until then, I've reverted to Snow Leopard, 
and I'll keep it until some updates to Lion
have come out. Using a March 2011 Macbook Pro 13 inch with the I5 processor, 
and I went from 37 seconds to boot up in Snow
Leopard, to 1 minute and 25 to boot up in Lion.
Friendly,
Chris

On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:05 PM, Missy Hope wrote:

> Amen! Very well said! I agree 100 percent with everything in this message. 
> Bottom line, we're paying the price for pouncing
> on a new OS the day it came out. I'm sure that sooner or later, (hopefully 
> sooner), Apple will fix all of these issues.
> Good night, all!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:50 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues
> Importance: High
>
> I wouldn't so much say that they are losing commitment, as much as I'd say,
> they seem to be getting very sloppy.  I mean, ok, here's my thing.  I
> totally am with all you all in saying everyone just chill.  the only reason
> I'm keeping my stance so strong on this is the fact that look at this.  I
> mean, this looks like we should still be running a beta with all these bugs.
> come on, lookit!  We have some beta testers on here, do we not?  Admit it,
> did you all see any of these bugs?  If not, then wow.  I apologize.  Really
> I do.  I'm then out of lign severely, and for that, I'm ashamed of myself,
> but, really, think about this for justa minute.  OK, you all can shoot me, I
> know you may want me to shut up, as does a few people who we won't mention,
> but, if they and all you others will please I beg you, just! for once, hear
> me out for a second.
>
> If you will, and will at least acknowledge me, then I'll perhaps shut up.
>
> Just let me have this for a sec.
>
> Look, let's addres this from a fact stand point rather than a Chris's
> opinion standpoint, ok?
>
> this way it's more fair.
>
> 1.  We all agree this is a new O S, right?
>
> 2.  We all agree that things are very buggy in many areas, right?  Uh dab
> dab dap? Holdit!  I'm not done, listen to me!  I'm still talking.  You'll
> get your chance.  I didn't ask you all if th3e problems can be addressed in
> a software update.  I'll address that in a second.  right now, we're just
> looking at the facts.  OK?  So I repeat:
>
> 2.  Is it not true, that we all agree that lots of things are buggy?  Yes,
> or no.
>
> 3.  Do we all agree that these are problems that should have probably been
> addressed at least to some extent during the beta cycle before the official
> release?  Yes or no>?
>
> 4.  Do we all agree that most of these bugs can be delt with and tollerated
> to some degree?
>
> OK then.
>
> I think we all agree on all the above, so why such hostility toward me and
> everyone else on list by some members.  Look, I feel you all's frustration,
> we just want things to work, but we also are getting frustrated at the
> nonconstructive messages cluttering the inbox of many.  But, there is a
> delete key, and I assure you, things will die down once Lion is more
> progressed.  Right now, everyone is just kind of in that what the bird state
> right now.
>
> do we need to chill?  OK, maybe so, but, really people, do you really think
> that an O S should be this buggy before official release?  I know you all
> don't like hearing what I'm saying, and it's pissing you all off hearing it,
> but that's because I am not afraid to speak my mind nor the truth.  The
> blunt truth is, at least in my view of things, Apple is beginning to fail
> miserably at there line of duty with accessibilty.  Now, does this mean I'm
> saying that they are purposefully? doing this?  No!  Mark it in red what I
> say here:  Ab, suh, lootly? not!  I think they're just becoming more and
> more lazy, maybe not wanting to be so involved.  Maybe they're trying to
> take on too much at once.  I, don't, know!  I don't know what goes on behind
> the scenes there?  I probably don't, wanna? know!  The point is, we really
> can't make accusations, can we!  We don't know if they're really working
> behind the scene or not.  So, on the one hand, should we probably just
> chill?  Yes, but, having said that, is it mortally wrong for me to
> constructively complain about observations I've found?  Yes.  Is it
> justifiable to say negative things about bugs I find which we all knkow
> exist?  Yes!  It's just an observation/opinion people? It's not your spouce
> who won't... umm... I'm not finishing that... LOL!  ROFL!
>
> You get the point.
>
> So in my defense, I ask jpeole, please be more gentle with me.  I'm only
> trying to help you all, and make suggestions.  I may come on harsh at times,
> I know I do, but for god sake, cut me some slack! I'm frustrated! Can you
> blame me?  Are we not all at one point or another in life?  Bluntly? Deal
> with it, or don't read my mail! It's not rocket science!
>
> OK, I'm not gonna keep ranting and raving about htis. I've said my peace and
> hopefully've been heard.  Enough is enough, in all respect fiarness to all
> of you all.  I rest my case.
>
> Chris.
>
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