I ran temperature monitor while I still had lion installed, and I'm not sure I was reading it's output correctly because it's not an app I'm familiar with, but assuming I did read it correctly, my temperatures were around 104F, which seemed awfully hot to me. I reported the overheating issue again today when I spoke to the Apple rep who is helping me with my midi issues. He said he completely understands going back to SL until this issue gets fixed, and he said he'd report that it has been determined that spotlight has quite a lot to do with this. Personally, I'd be perfectly happy never to run spotlight at all. I know where I put my files, so if it’s a resource that can be disabled safely, then that's what I'd prefer to do. I'm still going to wait on an update or two to lion before I make it my primary OS again, just because I really don't want to take any chances on inadvertently frying my brand new macbook pro.
-----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution Odd! You and I have the same system basically, except that your's is a Pro, where mine isn['t, but m ine's also Mid 2010. Dule core Intel 2.4GHZ, 2GB Ram, 250GB hard Drive, Lion OSX 10.7, 13 inch display. I can get my SMC Firmware version number, if you'd like me to, but I know, after referencing it on the Apple web site, that it is the newest, and when I tried to reinstall it from the dmg that I downloaded, as advised by a Senior advisor, the checksum on the version I had installed and on the DMG I downloaded matched to a T. So... yeah... I definitely think that the MDS Daemon has a lot to do with this, perhaps that isn't the only thing, but again, I staned before god, regardless what Carolyn, and others think, to say, for me, doing the things that I outlined last night, has now made my core 1 and 2, According to the app called Temperature Monitor, (Which is freeware by the way,) go dow3n to half, approx. where they were. Before, it was running with core 1 and 2, each individually at about 85C, with the fans running about 2000RPM, and my graffics chip when screen was at 0 percent brightness+screen curtain enabled, at about 90C. Now half all those figures or roughly. When I called Apple, they really didn't seem to care, or take the fact seriously that I almost burnt myself the other night when trying to move the system from my desk to my couch, and believe me, I have fairly tough skin. I don't burn easy. So, yeah, I don't know the deal, but it seems very odd that it was so hot that this happened, and that I've found tons of people having this issue. Just go to google, and search for macbook+lion+running hot I promise you'll find multiple results which reference this issue. The fact that Apple didn't take me seriously, and seems to think that 200F for a CPU is normal, and that over-heating would be around 450F...? Uh huhhum? Yeah, that would be overheating if it was a bottle rocket, but multen if it's metel, as it is. Needless to say, I question that advisor's credibility. If anyone wants to benchmark their system, as I said, just google for an app called Temperature Monitor. the app store might even have it. I didn't look there. I found it just by Googling, so, sorry, no longer have the U R L. If you all have issues finding it though, let me know and I'll try to dig it out of my history. Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Malone" <james.9...@gmail.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:41 AM Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution > Wow, I'm honestly amazed so many of you are having this problem. Is it > only on the really new models? Mine is the mid 2010 one, and its fine. > MBP by the way. > > On 7/27/11, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I'm not totally sure yet if Apple is aware of this problem or not, but >> I'm >> gonna call them here in a few minutes when they open. >> >> Chris. >> >> On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> Well, all I know is this. Yesterday, My poor Mac book pro was indeed >>> running very very hot; but, today, not so. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>> >>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>> >>> Skype name: >>> barefootedray >>> >>> Facebook: >>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>> >>>> I understand, and completely agree. I just knew something wasn't quite >>>> right when I was running Lion, so for now at least, >>>> I'm happy I've downgraded. Does apple know about the cause of the >>>> over-heating now? If not, I can mention it to them; have an >>>> appointment to talk to a rep in a couple of hours regarding my midi >>>> playback issue. I'll be booting from my external drive >>>> that has Lion on it, but will wait til the last minute prior to the >>>> call >>>> to do so. I don't want my computer to be toasted. >>>> (smile) >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark >>>> Gilland >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:34 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a >>>> sollution >>>> >>>> The thing is that Spotlight, yes, can be easily disabled. If you >>>> follow >>>> all >>>> my steps up until I start going into Terminal, in theory, that should! >>>> work, >>>> but the reason I did the terminal work is just to absolutely beyond a >>>> doubt >>>> be certained that it wouldn't try pulling anything stupid in the >>>> background >>>> unknowingly, as frankly, I dono about you Missy, but, I don't like >>>> surprises, nor over-heated logicboards, as they don't taste too good >>>> when >>>> cooked for dinner. LOL! >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Missy Hoppe" <melis...@fuse.net> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:15 AM >>>> Subject: RE: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a >>>> sollution >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi! I'd definitely be interested in learning how to disable spotlight >>>>> the >>>>> safe way. Those instructions sent earlier were way >>>>> over my little head, that's for sure! I have no doubt that they'd >>>>> work, >>>>> but as I read them, all I could think was: "Or... Go >>>>> back to SL until Lion is fised." If spotlight can be disabled simply >>>>> and >>>>> safely in sl too, though, I'd love instructions on >>>>> that. Might that be something you'd cover in an up-coming podcast? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:12 AM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a >>>>> sollution >>>>> >>>>> I actually have spot light disabled in snow leppard as well. If >>>>> cocktail >>>>> works with lion, I will use it to disable spot >>>>> light, it will do this by unchecking one option. I know where I keep >>>>> everything on my computer, so I have no need for >>>>> spotlight, those resources are better used for other things. >>>>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be >>>>>> for >>>>>> the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you >>>>> won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** >>>>> something >>>>> I >>>>> advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow >>>>> my instructions to, a, T! >>>>>> >>>>>> Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any >>>>>> members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything >>>>> that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing >>>>> this >>>>> to hold everyone on the list including myself as >>>>> well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, >>>>> it's >>>>> a >>>>> sure fix. >>>>>> >>>>>> First of all, the problem at hand: >>>>>> >>>>>> I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, >>>>>> I've >>>>>> determined that it's the mds server daemon that is >>>>> causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about >>>>> 85 >>>>> degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! >>>>> gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way >>>>>> Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like >>>>> Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, >>>>> but >>>>> I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when >>>>> your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, >>>>> but, >>>>> realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans >>>>> will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice >>>>> as >>>>> hot. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but >>>>>> as >>>>>> I >>>>>> am saying again and again after again, You! do >>>>> this soly! at your own risk! >>>>>> >>>>>> Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, >>>>>> then >>>>>> don't look at me if something doesn't work, or >>>>> breaks. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, >>>>>> obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep >>>>> reading how to do this. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and >>>>>> interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck >>>>> every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going >>>>> WTF! >>>>> That's gonna disable my spotlight! Yes. It will. >>>>> You're correct. %That's the only? way we're for now, until an update >>>>> comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, it's either this, >>>>> or have an over-heating logicboard. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button. >>>>>> >>>>>> . In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit >>>>>> command+shift+C to go to computer. >>>>>> >>>>>> 6. locate Macintosh HD. don't! open it, just arrow to and select >>>>>> it. >>>>>> I >>>>>> repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it. >>>>>> >>>>>> 7. Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose >>>>>> button, >>>>>> or whatever it's called, can't remember exactly. >>>>>> >>>>>> 8. When told this could effect other applications from the search >>>>>> feature working, just say yes/ok to add it to the >>>>> exclusions list. Trust me, you'll be fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> 9. Press command+W to close System Preferences. >>>>>> >>>>>> O? K! Now, for the really brutal work! I know I've said this >>>>>> before, >>>>>> but I say again, follow me, to? a, T! >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Open your Utilities folder with command+shift+U, then command+O >>>>>> on >>>>>> terminal.app. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Disable the indexing of spotlight by typing >>>>>> >>>>>> sudo mdsutil -a -i off >>>>>> >>>>>> Then press return. >>>>>> >>>>>> Type your administrator password, then hit return. >>>>>> >>>>>> Great! Now indexing should be disabled. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. Now, unload the spotlight daemonn by typing: >>>>>> >>>>>> sudo launchctl unload -w >>>>>> /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata/mds/plist >>>>>> >>>>>> Then press return. You may again need to enter your password, but >>>>>> probably not. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you get a message that the daemon already is unloaded, then you're >>>>>> done! If not, that should unload things, at which >>>>> point you're done, either way! >>>>>> >>>>>> Now, if you really wanna be a smart butt, and totally make the >>>>>> spotllight >>>>>> menu bar item totally vannish for the time being, >>>>> in terminal type the following two commands. I should add all these >>>>> commands are case sensitive, so if you messed up above, >>>>> it's ok, you didn't do any harm, just go do 'em again. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's the command to make the spotlight disappear. I'd not advise >>>>>> doing >>>>>> this, but if you really? want to, here's what to >>>>> type: >>>>>> >>>>>> sudo chmod 600 >>>>>> /System/Library/CoreServices/Search.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Search >>>>>> >>>>>> Then for the change to take effect, type: >>>>>> >>>>>> killall SystemUIServer >>>>>> >>>>>> And hit return. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then quit Terminal with command+Q. >>>>>> >>>>>> Boom! Congradulations, no more spotlight, and boom! no more hot >>>>>> computer! >>>>>> >>>>>> Once I've been notified that Apple has made an update to address >>>>>> this, >>>>>> I'll write another e-mail post on how to undo all >>>>> this crap. >>>>>> >>>>>> Again, I didn't say this was for the faint of heart, and if something >>>>>> blew up in your face along the way, again, I didn't >>>>> say! to do this! 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