Where do you find temperature monitor?
In the Journey, Ron On Jul 27, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > I ran temperature monitor while I still had lion installed, and I'm not sure > I was reading it's output correctly because it's > not an app I'm familiar with, but assuming I did read it correctly, my > temperatures were around 104F, which seemed awfully > hot to me. I reported the overheating issue again today when I spoke to the > Apple rep who is helping me with my midi issues. > He said he completely understands going back to SL until this issue gets > fixed, and he said he'd report that it has been > determined that spotlight has quite a lot to do with this. > Personally, I'd be perfectly happy never to run spotlight at all. I know > where I put my files, so if it’s a resource that can > be disabled safely, then that's what I'd prefer to do. I'm still going to > wait on an update or two to lion before I make it > my primary OS again, just because I really don't want to take any chances on > inadvertently frying my brand new macbook pro. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:00 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution > > Odd! You and I have the same system basically, except that your's is a Pro, > where mine isn['t, but m ine's also Mid 2010. > > Dule core Intel 2.4GHZ, 2GB Ram, 250GB hard Drive, Lion OSX 10.7, 13 inch > display. > > I can get my SMC Firmware version number, if you'd like me to, but I know, > after referencing it on the Apple web site, that it is the newest, and when > I tried to reinstall it from the dmg that I downloaded, as advised by a > Senior advisor, the checksum on the version I had installed and on the DMG I > downloaded matched to a T. So... yeah... > > I definitely think that the MDS Daemon has a lot to do with this, perhaps > that isn't the only thing, but again, I staned before god, regardless what > Carolyn, and others think, to say, for me, doing the things that I outlined > last night, has now made my core 1 and 2, According to the app called > Temperature Monitor, (Which is freeware by the way,) go dow3n to half, > approx. where they were. Before, it was running with core 1 and 2, each > individually at about 85C, with the fans running about 2000RPM, and my > graffics chip when screen was at 0 percent brightness+screen curtain > enabled, at about 90C. Now half all those figures or roughly. When I > called Apple, they really didn't seem to care, or take the fact seriously > that I almost burnt myself the other night when trying to move the system > from my desk to my couch, and believe me, I have fairly tough skin. I don't > burn easy. So, yeah, I don't know the deal, but it seems very odd that it > was so hot that this happened, and that I've found tons of people having > this issue. Just go to google, and search for > > macbook+lion+running hot > > I promise you'll find multiple results which reference this issue. The fact > that Apple didn't take me seriously, and seems to think that 200F for a CPU > is normal, and that over-heating would be around 450F...? Uh huhhum? Yeah, > that would be overheating if it was a bottle rocket, but multen if it's > metel, as it is. Needless to say, I question that advisor's credibility. > > If anyone wants to benchmark their system, as I said, just google for an app > called Temperature Monitor. the app store might even have it. I didn't > look there. I found it just by Googling, so, sorry, no longer have the U R > L. If you all have issues finding it though, let me know and I'll try to > dig it out of my history. > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Malone" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:41 AM > Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution > > >> Wow, I'm honestly amazed so many of you are having this problem. Is it >> only on the really new models? Mine is the mid 2010 one, and its fine. >> MBP by the way. >> >> On 7/27/11, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I'm not totally sure yet if Apple is aware of this problem or not, but >>> I'm >>> gonna call them here in a few minutes when they open. >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>> >>>> Well, all I know is this. Yesterday, My poor Mac book pro was indeed >>>> running very very hot; but, today, not so. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>>> >>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>>> >>>> Skype name: >>>> barefootedray >>>> >>>> Facebook: >>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>>> >>>>> I understand, and completely agree. I just knew something wasn't quite >>>>> right when I was running Lion, so for now at least, >>>>> I'm happy I've downgraded. Does apple know about the cause of the >>>>> over-heating now? If not, I can mention it to them; have an >>>>> appointment to talk to a rep in a couple of hours regarding my midi >>>>> playback issue. I'll be booting from my external drive >>>>> that has Lion on it, but will wait til the last minute prior to the >>>>> call >>>>> to do so. I don't want my computer to be toasted. >>>>> (smile) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark >>>>> Gilland >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:34 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a >>>>> sollution >>>>> >>>>> The thing is that Spotlight, yes, can be easily disabled. If you >>>>> follow >>>>> all >>>>> my steps up until I start going into Terminal, in theory, that should! >>>>> work, >>>>> but the reason I did the terminal work is just to absolutely beyond a >>>>> doubt >>>>> be certained that it wouldn't try pulling anything stupid in the >>>>> background >>>>> unknowingly, as frankly, I dono about you Missy, but, I don't like >>>>> surprises, nor over-heated logicboards, as they don't taste too good >>>>> when >>>>> cooked for dinner. LOL! >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> >>>>> Chris. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Missy Hoppe" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:15 AM >>>>> Subject: RE: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a >>>>> sollution >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi! I'd definitely be interested in learning how to disable spotlight >>>>>> the >>>>>> safe way. Those instructions sent earlier were way >>>>>> over my little head, that's for sure! I have no doubt that they'd >>>>>> work, >>>>>> but as I read them, all I could think was: "Or... Go >>>>>> back to SL until Lion is fised." If spotlight can be disabled simply >>>>>> and >>>>>> safely in sl too, though, I'd love instructions on >>>>>> that. Might that be something you'd cover in an up-coming podcast? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:12 AM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a >>>>>> sollution >>>>>> >>>>>> I actually have spot light disabled in snow leppard as well. If >>>>>> cocktail >>>>>> works with lion, I will use it to disable spot >>>>>> light, it will do this by unchecking one option. I know where I keep >>>>>> everything on my computer, so I have no need for >>>>>> spotlight, those resources are better used for other things. >>>>>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you >>>>>> won't be taking things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** >>>>>> something >>>>>> I >>>>>> advise a nuby trying to take on unless you follow >>>>>> my instructions to, a, T! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any >>>>>>> members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything >>>>>> that may occur from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing >>>>>> this >>>>>> to hold everyone on the list including myself as >>>>>> well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, >>>>>> it's >>>>>> a >>>>>> sure fix. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First of all, the problem at hand: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, >>>>>>> I've >>>>>>> determined that it's the mds server daemon that is >>>>>> causing the over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about >>>>>> 85 >>>>>> degrees celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! >>>>>> gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way >>>>>>> Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like >>>>>> Lion, I'll say this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, >>>>>> but >>>>>> I'll also say, don't come crying to me nor Apple when >>>>>> your logicboard fries from overheating. I say this not to scare you, >>>>>> but, >>>>>> realisticly, if you're anything like me, your fans >>>>>> will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice >>>>>> as >>>>>> hot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> am saying again and again after again, You! do >>>>>> this soly! at your own risk! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> don't look at me if something doesn't work, or >>>>>> breaks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, >>>>>>> obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep >>>>>> reading how to do this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and >>>>>>> interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck >>>>>> every? single one! of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going >>>>>> WTF! >>>>>> That's gonna disable my spotlight! Yes. It will. >>>>>> You're correct. %That's the only? way we're for now, until an update >>>>>> comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, it's either this, >>>>>> or have an over-heating logicboard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> . In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit >>>>>>> command+shift+C to go to computer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6. locate Macintosh HD. don't! open it, just arrow to and select >>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 7. Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose >>>>>>> button, >>>>>>> or whatever it's called, can't remember exactly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 8. When told this could effect other applications from the search >>>>>>> feature working, just say yes/ok to add it to the >>>>>> exclusions list. Trust me, you'll be fine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 9. Press command+W to close System Preferences. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> O? K! Now, for the really brutal work! I know I've said this >>>>>>> before, >>>>>>> but I say again, follow me, to? a, T! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Open your Utilities folder with command+shift+U, then command+O >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> terminal.app. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Disable the indexing of spotlight by typing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sudo mdsutil -a -i off >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then press return. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Type your administrator password, then hit return. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Great! Now indexing should be disabled. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. Now, unload the spotlight daemonn by typing: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sudo launchctl unload -w >>>>>>> /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata/mds/plist >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then press return. You may again need to enter your password, but >>>>>>> probably not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you get a message that the daemon already is unloaded, then you're >>>>>>> done! If not, that should unload things, at which >>>>>> point you're done, either way! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, if you really wanna be a smart butt, and totally make the >>>>>>> spotllight >>>>>>> menu bar item totally vannish for the time being, >>>>>> in terminal type the following two commands. I should add all these >>>>>> commands are case sensitive, so if you messed up above, >>>>>> it's ok, you didn't do any harm, just go do 'em again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's the command to make the spotlight disappear. I'd not advise >>>>>>> doing >>>>>>> this, but if you really? want to, here's what to >>>>>> type: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sudo chmod 600 >>>>>>> /System/Library/CoreServices/Search.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Search >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then for the change to take effect, type: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> killall SystemUIServer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And hit return. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then quit Terminal with command+Q. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Boom! Congradulations, no more spotlight, and boom! no more hot >>>>>>> computer! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once I've been notified that Apple has made an update to address >>>>>>> this, >>>>>>> I'll write another e-mail post on how to undo all >>>>>> this crap. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Again, I didn't say this was for the faint of heart, and if something >>>>>>> blew up in your face along the way, again, I didn't >>>>>> say! to do this! 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