Hi! I don't know if the moniter will help or not. I got the com.apple.doc.extra 
thing on my macbook pro while I had Lion
installed. I know it's a simple thing to get rid of, but it drove me bananas, 
and is 1 of the reasons I chose to go back to
snow leopard for the time being. Lion always started talking automatically, 
eventually, but I was always stuck in that
com.apple.doc.extra thing. I really, really hope that that problem gets fixed 
in a future lion release. Good luck, and I hope
you're able to get it working.
Missy


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 5:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Problem with VoiceOver not starting in Lion

Hi:

You're right.  VoiceOver is supposed to start once it's run, as long
as it's not turned off.

This was its behavior in Snow Leopard, regardless of the presence or
absence of a monitor.

However, they must have changed something in Lion that keeps this from
happening.

Here's another thing to note.

When I press Command-f5, VO starts and I hear something like
"comm.apple.dock.extra".

Wonder if this has anything to do with this.

I will try to get an old monitor of mine to see if having the hardware
present helps.   I believe it will.

On 7/30/11, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote:
> Running without a display gives unpredictable and unreliable results,
> especially with Safari. Once you start VO from within your account, it
> should start up automatically when you log back in. You can leave it running
> when you exit your account. If you shut it down before you log out and don't
> restart it, it won't come back automatically when you log in.
>
> HTH,
> Teresa
> On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> Just upgraded to Lion and everything works satisfactorily, except that,
>> when I boot up, VO does not automatically come up after log in.
>>
>> VO works fine in the Login screen, but, won't automatically come on after
>> login.
>>
>> I believe the problem may be that I am running without a display, since
>> I'm using a Mac Mini and this has worked ok, for the most part.
>>
>> If there are any Mac Mini lion users out there, could you try booting up
>> without your display plugged in and see if VO comes up?  If it doesn't,
>> you should be able to hit cmd-f5 to get it to come up.
>>
>> It's not enough to turn the monitor off, it needs to be disconnected to
>> duplicate the conditions I'm working under.
>>
>> If this happens, can any of you suggest a work-around?  I can get an old
>> monitor and physically connect it.   It doesn't work, but, should provide
>> the hardware functionality needed to correct this problem, if that's what
>> it is.
>>
>> It's not a big deal, although I'm going to write to the accessibility team
>> at Apple to see what their thoughts are.
>>
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