The comApple Extra thing still happens to me every single time I start my Mac 
book Pro.  Just a simple command+tab seems to get rid of that.

Mostly, though, I just leave my Mac book Pro on so Time machine can do it's 
thing.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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On Jul 30, 2011, at 5:44 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

> Hi! I don't know if the moniter will help or not. I got the 
> com.apple.doc.extra thing on my macbook pro while I had Lion
> installed. I know it's a simple thing to get rid of, but it drove me bananas, 
> and is 1 of the reasons I chose to go back to
> snow leopard for the time being. Lion always started talking automatically, 
> eventually, but I was always stuck in that
> com.apple.doc.extra thing. I really, really hope that that problem gets fixed 
> in a future lion release. Good luck, and I hope
> you're able to get it working.
> Missy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 5:26 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Problem with VoiceOver not starting in Lion
> 
> Hi:
> 
> You're right.  VoiceOver is supposed to start once it's run, as long
> as it's not turned off.
> 
> This was its behavior in Snow Leopard, regardless of the presence or
> absence of a monitor.
> 
> However, they must have changed something in Lion that keeps this from
> happening.
> 
> Here's another thing to note.
> 
> When I press Command-f5, VO starts and I hear something like
> "comm.apple.dock.extra".
> 
> Wonder if this has anything to do with this.
> 
> I will try to get an old monitor of mine to see if having the hardware
> present helps.   I believe it will.
> 
> On 7/30/11, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Running without a display gives unpredictable and unreliable results,
>> especially with Safari. Once you start VO from within your account, it
>> should start up automatically when you log back in. You can leave it running
>> when you exit your account. If you shut it down before you log out and don't
>> restart it, it won't come back automatically when you log in.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Teresa
>> On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> 
>>> Just upgraded to Lion and everything works satisfactorily, except that,
>>> when I boot up, VO does not automatically come up after log in.
>>> 
>>> VO works fine in the Login screen, but, won't automatically come on after
>>> login.
>>> 
>>> I believe the problem may be that I am running without a display, since
>>> I'm using a Mac Mini and this has worked ok, for the most part.
>>> 
>>> If there are any Mac Mini lion users out there, could you try booting up
>>> without your display plugged in and see if VO comes up?  If it doesn't,
>>> you should be able to hit cmd-f5 to get it to come up.
>>> 
>>> It's not enough to turn the monitor off, it needs to be disconnected to
>>> duplicate the conditions I'm working under.
>>> 
>>> If this happens, can any of you suggest a work-around?  I can get an old
>>> monitor and physically connect it.   It doesn't work, but, should provide
>>> the hardware functionality needed to correct this problem, if that's what
>>> it is.
>>> 
>>> It's not a big deal, although I'm going to write to the accessibility team
>>> at Apple to see what their thoughts are.
>>> 
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