I found the same thing, and it makes me wish I'd gone the Air route. If I need a screen and keyboard anyway, and I'd really like a track pad, it seems like a laptop would have worked much better. Oh well... unless anyone wants to trade? :)
On 9/10/11, Joseph Norton <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi list: > > Here's an update to my situation. > > Previously, I could not get VO to start after I booted up into Lion. > > Well, I got an old monitor, plugged it in, and, now, VO comes up just > like it should. > > Don't know why this should make a difference, but, it does. > > One other note: > > Lion was not saving my keyboard preferences, but, now that I hooked a > monitor up, Lion is now saving keyboard preferences, as well. > > So, for anyone else wanting to run headless, you might want to find an > old monitor that no one wants. > > This one isn't even hooked up to electricity, but, it still seems to > make a difference. > > Hope this helps. > > On 7/30/11, Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> wrote: >> The comApple Extra thing still happens to me every single time I start my >> Mac book Pro. Just a simple command+tab seems to get rid of that. >> >> Mostly, though, I just leave my Mac book Pro on so Time machine can do >> it's >> thing. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >> >> Skype name: >> barefootedray >> >> Facebook: >> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >> >> >> >> On Jul 30, 2011, at 5:44 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >> >>> Hi! I don't know if the moniter will help or not. I got the >>> com.apple.doc.extra thing on my macbook pro while I had Lion >>> installed. I know it's a simple thing to get rid of, but it drove me >>> bananas, and is 1 of the reasons I chose to go back to >>> snow leopard for the time being. Lion always started talking >>> automatically, eventually, but I was always stuck in that >>> com.apple.doc.extra thing. I really, really hope that that problem gets >>> fixed in a future lion release. Good luck, and I hope >>> you're able to get it working. >>> Missy >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton >>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 5:26 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Problem with VoiceOver not starting in Lion >>> >>> Hi: >>> >>> You're right. VoiceOver is supposed to start once it's run, as long >>> as it's not turned off. >>> >>> This was its behavior in Snow Leopard, regardless of the presence or >>> absence of a monitor. >>> >>> However, they must have changed something in Lion that keeps this from >>> happening. >>> >>> Here's another thing to note. >>> >>> When I press Command-f5, VO starts and I hear something like >>> "comm.apple.dock.extra". >>> >>> Wonder if this has anything to do with this. >>> >>> I will try to get an old monitor of mine to see if having the hardware >>> present helps. I believe it will. >>> >>> On 7/30/11, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Running without a display gives unpredictable and unreliable results, >>>> especially with Safari. Once you start VO from within your account, it >>>> should start up automatically when you log back in. You can leave it >>>> running >>>> when you exit your account. If you shut it down before you log out and >>>> don't >>>> restart it, it won't come back automatically when you log in. >>>> >>>> HTH, >>>> Teresa >>>> On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Joseph Norton wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi: >>>>> >>>>> Just upgraded to Lion and everything works satisfactorily, except that, >>>>> when I boot up, VO does not automatically come up after log in. >>>>> >>>>> VO works fine in the Login screen, but, won't automatically come on >>>>> after >>>>> login. >>>>> >>>>> I believe the problem may be that I am running without a display, since >>>>> I'm using a Mac Mini and this has worked ok, for the most part. >>>>> >>>>> If there are any Mac Mini lion users out there, could you try booting >>>>> up >>>>> without your display plugged in and see if VO comes up? If it doesn't, >>>>> you should be able to hit cmd-f5 to get it to come up. >>>>> >>>>> It's not enough to turn the monitor off, it needs to be disconnected to >>>>> duplicate the conditions I'm working under. >>>>> >>>>> If this happens, can any of you suggest a work-around? I can get an >>>>> old >>>>> monitor and physically connect it. It doesn't work, but, should >>>>> provide >>>>> the hardware functionality needed to correct this problem, if that's >>>>> what >>>>> it is. >>>>> >>>>> It's not a big deal, although I'm going to write to the accessibility >>>>> team >>>>> at Apple to see what their thoughts are. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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