Hi Jef,
If you do find out why growl is not entirely awake, please let us know.
Paul.
On Sep 5, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:

> Well, now it has started working - sort of.
> 
> Mail is now identifying a new message for me.  I needed to stop Growl and 
> then restart it.  Restarting the computer didn't seem to do it.
> 
> I am still unable to get any sound to play when I switch from battery to 
> charger or the other way.  NOt sure why but, I continue to investigate.
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
> 
> On 2011-09-05, at 12:15 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
> 
>> Yes.  I have done all that.  This is why I was wondering if there was a 
>> hidden trick that I couldn't find or didn't know about.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> On 2011-09-05, at 12:08 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:
>> 
>>> Jeff,
>>> You can instruct growl to make a sound. Look in the per program 
>>> configuration, but be ware that you must enable the sound for each 
>>> application in turn. It involves some repetitive work but I think that's 
>>> the problem.
>>> To get into the growl configuration window, go to system preferences and 
>>> find growl there. You need to click the applications tab, and in the list 
>>> you find, highlight the program you want to configure sound for, say Skype 
>>> or something else. Then, click configure and go into the second tab sheet 
>>> of the configure dialog. The tab is called notifications, and there you 
>>> enable your sound.
>>> 
>>> Hth,
>>> Paul.
>>> On Sep 5, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have set this all up but, Growl never makes a sound.  I am wondering if 
>>>> there are any hidden tricks I need to do to get this working?
>>>> 
>>>> I realize this may be difficult for you to identify without investigating 
>>>> my system but, perhaps somebody else has had this problem and can identify 
>>>> how they solved it.
>>>> 
>>>> Thx,
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>> On 2011-09-05, at 11:32 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Tracey,
>>>>> 
>>>>> In growl, found via system preferences and then growl, you can set and 
>>>>> further configure a default notification style. One of them is speech. If 
>>>>> you set that as the default, then it will automatically be chosen for new 
>>>>> programs you use growl with, but you can also configure the growl 
>>>>> notification scheme on a per program basis if you want. By the way, any 
>>>>> new program that supports growl notifications, will automatically be 
>>>>> added to the growl window. This is because growl is always running, and 
>>>>> growl sees which program you are launching. If it happens to be one of 
>>>>> those that it recognizes  as being growl compatible,then growl will 
>>>>> automatically add that program name for you in its own window. Which 
>>>>> notification scheme, either one out of the many visual ones, or the 
>>>>> speech one, is chosen, depends on what you set as the default scheme for 
>>>>> new programs.
>>>>> Hth,
>>>>> Paul.
>>>>> On Sep 5, 2011, at 12:03 AM, Traci wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Holy cow Paul, that was an excellent tutorial.  Thank you very much.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Under Growl display options, should I select speech instead of any 
>>>>>> visual choice?  Does this mean speech will give me notifications?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is fun to try to figure out.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Traci
>>>>>> On Sep 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tracey,
>>>>>>> Let's explain that step by step so you don't get lost.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> First off. A disk image is a normal file on your hard drive. If you 
>>>>>>> click it, os10 will mount it as if it were a normal volume. In other 
>>>>>>> words, just like when you insert a cd, it gets mounted as an icon on 
>>>>>>> your desktop that you can open, browse etc, a dmg, once clicked, will 
>>>>>>> mount a new imaginary disk on to your desktop. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> First thing to do is Click the dmg. It doesn't matter where you have 
>>>>>>> the dmg. inside downloads is the easiest.  if you're new to images then 
>>>>>>> close everything that pops up till you are in your desktop, and then 
>>>>>>> look around there. You will find the growl volume on the desktop. Just 
>>>>>>> as you dive into macintosh hd, into the contents of a cd or an external 
>>>>>>> usb drive, you open the growl volume the same way. From the desktop, 
>>>>>>> press command down arrow on the growl volume icon. A new window will 
>>>>>>> open, showing the contents of the image file that growl sits in.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Once you have the newly mounted volume open, look at the files it 
>>>>>>> contains. You will hear that the current screen look and feel is set to 
>>>>>>> image browser, and not to list view or column view. To switch this back 
>>>>>>> to a normal list view that you can read as normal, just press command 
>>>>>>> and the number 2 and you will hear, as list view, checked.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now, explore the contents of the image file. It now looks like any 
>>>>>>> other folder on the mac. Find the item named growl dot pkg. A pkg file 
>>>>>>> is an installer bundle. If you click a pkg file, the installer inside 
>>>>>>> it will run.  You can do that now.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Next, follow the instructions in the installer screens. Don't be 
>>>>>>> distracted by all the unnecessary repetitive information on these 
>>>>>>> screens. I find these installers terrible, but they are doable. Follow 
>>>>>>> their instructions until you get a finish or a close button, and the 
>>>>>>> installer ends.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now, you are back n the mounted disk image and growl installation is 
>>>>>>> done. Now you need to perform a few final steps.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As said, you are now back inside the mounted image volume where you 
>>>>>>> found the growl dot pkg installer. You came here by pressing command 
>>>>>>> plus down from the desktop, and you close it again by pressing command 
>>>>>>> w. You will land back in your desktop.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now, unmount the volume where you installed growl from. Find the growl 
>>>>>>> icon on the desktop and press command e for eject. If you type command 
>>>>>>> e on a cd icon on your desktop, the cd disk would pop out of your 
>>>>>>> drive. In the case of unmounting a dmg volume, nothing pops out but the 
>>>>>>> growl desktop icon, containing the installer for it, will disappear to 
>>>>>>> clean your desktop.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now, you have growl installed. But, there will be no menu item to go 
>>>>>>> to, not in the finder menu bar, not in the apple menu, not even in the 
>>>>>>> vo m m, status menus. The place to turn on growl, and to tweak its 
>>>>>>> options, is system preferences. The place where you go for your system 
>>>>>>> stuff, vo m, and then down to system preferences. One of the last items 
>>>>>>> within system preferences will be the item for growl. Open it and 
>>>>>>> configure growl. Close the growl panel with command w as normal. If you 
>>>>>>> want, you can now get rid of the growl dmg disk image file, because 
>>>>>>> growl is installed and running.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now that this is clear and done, you should go to the growl website, 
>>>>>>> and read all of its documentation. It's not very much, and  it will 
>>>>>>> help you understand and work with growl.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hth,
>>>>>>> Paul.
>>>>>>> On Sep 4, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Traci wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thank you, I like the sound of this growl.
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Ok, I am still very new to downloading and installing.  I did some 
>>>>>>>> googling and learned the following:
>>>>>>>> To Install the application, open the disk image, and double click in 
>>>>>>>> the Growl.prefPane
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Can someone break that down for me?  I have my set up to download my 
>>>>>>>> disk images to my desktop, is this a case where I should keep it in my 
>>>>>>>> downloads folder?  IE, I should not delete this disk image?
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Once I open the disk image, then go over to the preference pain, I'm 
>>>>>>>> done?  Should I close that window and go over to system preferences to 
>>>>>>>> begin setting up Growl?
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> I'm looking forward to figuring this out further.  Thanks!
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Traci
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: Paul Erkens
>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 7:01 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: more system sound feedback?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Tracey,
>>>>>>>> Well, each case where you want to have sound on the mac is indeed 
>>>>>>>> possible, but you will have to know what to do. For example, Eric 
>>>>>>>> Caron already wrote about the progress bar that you can follow while a 
>>>>>>>> file is downloading. But growl is another option. To answer your 
>>>>>>>> questions: growl comes with an additional separate extension that you 
>>>>>>>> can install. So, first install growl, familiarize yourself with it, 
>>>>>>>> and then install the safari extension. This will let growl tell you 
>>>>>>>> when a download is complete. Regarding ejecting a usb disk: there is a 
>>>>>>>> growl extension that is called hardware growler. It also comes in the 
>>>>>>>> dmg bundle that growl comes in, if you download it. The hardware 
>>>>>>>> growler can keep an eye on the battery status, and also notify of 
>>>>>>>> hardware changes such as mounting and unmounting external partitions 
>>>>>>>> etc. Worth taking a look at.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hth,
>>>>>>>> Paul.
>>>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Traci wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> Is there a way to have more sound feedback on Mac?  I'm still quite 
>>>>>>>>> new, and I'm switching from windows, it is something that has 
>>>>>>>>> surprised me.
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> For example, when downloading a program from Safari, how do I know 
>>>>>>>>> it's progress or when it is completed?
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> Also when I connected or ejected an external hard drive, I don't 
>>>>>>>>> remember hearing a sound.
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>> Traci
>>>>>>>>>  
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