Agree Chris, I work with developers every day, as well ass with the business side. the true is that there is always things to implement. but I really think the matter is philosophical, if in matter of principal accessibility was there as a principal from the start of RND and in the business side and in the design/development process from the conception, accessibility would be less of a burden and not a matter of adding on. I am just glad Apple chose to have accessibility as both a Marketing strategy as a rnd principal. Hope others would take a similar approach. Cheer up, Rachel On Sep 12, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> As I had mentioned in previous emails, the root issue is a philisophical one. > Good app developers want to write their code once. So when it came to > accessibility the Mozilla folks went to the open standard IAccessible2 APIs. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAccessible2 > > That way any platform that went with this standard would get accessibility > and any platform "could" implement the standard if they wanted to. So Windows > and Linux did and Mozilla's apps are accessible there. Apple has implemented > their own accessibility API and basically told Mozilla to re-implement to > Apple's standards. Mozilla has refused saying Apple should just implement > IAccessible2. And so here we are with no accessibility because both sides > insist the other needs to do the work. I can't really blame Mozilla for > saying Apple should implement the open APIs for accessibility. At the same > time I'm sure Apple thinks their APIs are better and Mozilla just needs to > get with the program if they want to join the Apple ecosphere. > > Not sure how many of you have actually worked with developers to get them to > do stuff to make their apps accessible but I'd say most just devs are unaware > or it isn't as high a priority as just getting the new features done. I > assume both Apple and Mozilla's engineers are of a similar bent that they > have 50 features to implement with time for only 10 and coming to them with > requests to drop more features to work on accessibility is a tough sell. That > said, Mozilla is open source so anyone who wants to could do the coding. I > think IBM funneled some money to Mozilla to make the IAccessible2 stuff > happen and I imagine Apple could do the same, but probably wont. > > CB > > On 9/11/11 4:05 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: >> I find that rather interesting. now why would the general public (and >> business professionals) get the impression that mozilla was the most >> accessible web browser for any OS? sure it works well with windoweeyes and >> jaws in the windows platform. it also works mostly with orca in linux. it >> does not work at all in OS X with voiceover (and I have even tried growl >> with it and still had a lot of issues). >> >> I have sent more than a few emails over the last few years and all I get >> back is nothing but a load of crapola and finger pointing. now I know we >> can't prevail upon a bunch of volunteer code monkeys and still have them do >> the work. if they were paid and we wrote the checks, that would certainly be >> a different case. >> >> -Eric >> On Sep 11, 2011, at 12:43 AM, Rachel magario wrote: >> >>> the sad part is that loads of programers think firefox is the most >>> accessible browser out there. They get shocked to find it does not work on >>> the mac. I recall a programer at my work insisted that I should use >>> mozilla. Only after he tried using it with vo by him self, was when the >>> message got across! >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
