Just one little nit here. There is no correlation between the use of javascript and bad accessibility. Actually you must use javascript in many cases to make pages accessible such as updating ARIA roles and states when interacting with a widget or moving focus to a reasonable place when a user actions an item. Of course there are lots of sites that use javascript to add interactivity to a site and fail to do it in an accessible way, but that's not a problem with javascript. Now if we could just get Safari up to speed on ARIA we could really get some sites accessible. As it is today I test web accessibility on Firefox on Jaws or NVDA and hope it will work on Safari sometime in the future.

CB

On 10/2/11 3:30 PM, Esther wrote:
Hi Christine,

I wasn't able to get anywhere with the main web site in Safari with VoiceOver 
on.  Not only does the site use flash for its contents, but the source page 
view indicates that they are using a lot of javascript.  I couldn't even click 
in the web page and select all to send the contents to TextEdit for viewing via 
the services menu option.

What did work was doing a Google search for a separate page for Red Mango gift 
cards.  I found this URL for their online card sales:
https://redmango.myguestaccount.com/login/web_card_sale/selectcards.srv

I think this is the page you can eventually get to if you manage to get past all 
the flash and javascript.  Navigate to the Quantity field of the denomination gift 
card you want ($25, $50, $75, etc.), route your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver 
cursor with VO-Command-F5 and click with VO-Shift-Space in the text field.  Then 
type the number of cards you want and press return.  You'll be taken to the 
Billing&  Shipping page, and can continue.  I didn't try to go through the 
whole order placement, but this seemed to work with Safari and VoiceOver once you 
get past that main web page.  I'd normally try to find a search field or sitemap 
link on the main page to do a search, but it didn't work in this case, so I tried 
Google.  So the workaround in this case was to search for the specific web page on 
the redmango.com site that dealt with gift cards, and hope that if I found this 
that it wouldn't have the same flash problems of the main page of the site.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Oct 2, 2011, at 08:30, Christine Grassman wrote:

Hello, folks.  I have tried, on my own and with sighted assistance without 
VoiceOver on, to purchase a gift card from
http://www.redmangousa.com

The site seems to be in flash, yet I can read the address bar, and the links to Twitter 
and Facebook. When I search in Google, I see the information in perfectly readable text 
in the search window, but when I click on it, I'm back to the inaccessible site.  My 
husband tried without VoiceOver, and is getting "missing plug-in" -- but I 
thought Flash worked without VoiceOver.
I tried Omniweb, and I'm getting nothing except the title of the site, and a 
TAbs button, which is doing nothing. Any workaround for such sites is 
appreciated.
Christine


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