Hi,

I've been avoiding this thread like the black plague but, as a blind person, I 
would answer your question as a maybe.  If I lived in a country where I 
couldn't access books?  Sure.  I just might.  I think reading is pretty 
important.  I would find it hard to subject to a law that might keep me 
illiterate and ignorant.

I'm not saying its right, but sometimes such actions are necessary.  luckily, I 
live in the U.S. and I have many more options for obtaining reading material 
within the boundaries of the law.  If I didn't, I don't know.

Ricardo Walker
[email protected]
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Nov 1, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> My question stands unanswered so far as I am concerned.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
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> On Nov 1, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
> 
>> The copyright laws are stupid weather you are blind or sighted. Look at what 
>> happened with music in general. Now that I am able to easily purchase and 
>> download music instantly without searching for it on torrent sites etc, I am 
>> doing it. I use the app store as well. You know why? Because I don't have to 
>> deal with each and every protection process available on the planet every 
>> time I want to reinstall and manage my software. No I am not a pirate in 
>> general. 
>> If there was a way to pay an x amount of money and have access to books, 
>> music, movies etc I would do it instantly. 
>> Until then, I will do what I can to read listen or watch what I want. 
>> As for the bad name we got, if I had to deal with the so called 
>> accessibility industry and things like Jaws etc, Oh yes, I would have done 
>> it again, get their software some how. Fortunately I don't have to do that 
>> any more. 
>> But we are getting off topic now completely.
>> 
>> Later.
>> Nektarios.
>> 
>> On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Stupid copy right laws?  So, you think that just because you're blind, that 
>>> gives you the right to break copy right laws?  It's attitudes like that 
>>> which give us a  bad name.  I mus protest in the strongest terms!!!  
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Oh no, Audible lawyer, you misunderstood me completely.
>>>> I did not apologize for the message itself, that's another problem and 
>>>> another discussion. I did apologize because I sent the wrong message to 
>>>> the wrong email address. 
>>>> As for the rest, I am not going to get on a debate with big mouth blind 
>>>> people, who are very willing to defend Apple, Audible, RIAA or anyone else 
>>>> for that matter for stupid copyright laws that hert accessibility. 
>>>> I am totally blind as many others on this list, I am not in the Usa, so I 
>>>> can't get access to Audible, bookshare, library of congress, RFB, RNIB, 
>>>> CNIB or other source of information, even if I am willing to pay. All 
>>>> these, because of the stupid copyright laws you are defending. So please, 
>>>> spare me the legal lecture and save yourself a few "mail busy" messages in 
>>>> the process.
>>>> 
>>>> Nektarios.
>>>> P.s> I apologize again for my mistake. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 1, 2011, at 2:01 AM, Kristyn Leigh wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> An apology is not sufficient for providing illegal versions of 
>>>>> copyrighted materials to anyone.  Perhaps the folks in the legal 
>>>>> department at Audible would like to respond to your offer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 29, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Guys, I posted a message to the list by accident a minute ago. 
>>>>>> I understand that it is impossible to take it bak, so please disregard 
>>>>>> it. 
>>>>>> I am sorry, I meant to send this to another person. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Apologies.
>>>>>> Nektarios.
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