Hi Chris!
But of course quite a few people have a hearing impairment!
And have said the audio capture is bad for them!
What the solution for security is to get around this is going to be difficult!
Colin

On 9 Nov 2011, at 19:01, Chris Blouch wrote:

> My usual rules of thumb for CAPTCHA which work at Internet scale are:
> 
> 1. Algorithmically generated puzzles which are hard for algorithms to solve 
> (one-way transforms)
>    Likewise, puzzles which are reasonably possible for real people to solve
> 2. Puzzles which do not require localization
> 3. Puzzles which are not susceptible to brute force attacks (high random 
> success rates)
> 
> That said, it should be obvious that swirled character image captchas will 
> not work for those with vision impairments but this is easily remedied with 
> an audio version. Audio and image recognition are pretty much the two areas 
> that algorithms have trouble with. Common solution is multiple people 
> speaking on top of each other. Hard for algorithms to crack but not 
> impossible for real people. Playback using Sound Manager 2
> 
> http://www.schillmania.com/projects/soundmanager2/
> 
> does the heavy lifting to select native html5 or flash for the audio and do 
> it in a way that works for all browsers. Other than that they just have to 
> make sure that the audio play button is easily found in the tab order and, 
> once pressed, moves focus to the text input. Not much else needed beyond that.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 11/8/11 6:57 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> For reasons that are complicated to explain I have the ear of the legal 
>> department at paypal -ebay.  Part of the reason is that, as some of you may 
>> know, they are *requiring* all users to agree that that they read pdf files, 
>> or they will lose their account.  Because of this and some other access 
>> issues with paypal and ebay, i have been asked to document why things like 
>> pdf and captcha are issues for those using adaptive tools.  I have told them 
>> already that to assume everyone is using jaws is impractical, and that still 
>> browsers like lynx, with its recent edition  dated June 2011, are good 
>> foundations for access.  I have shared that pdf reaains a hurtle, and 
>> captcha is flat out an issue, as is stuff like flash.
>> because they are serious though I want to make maximum use of this 
>> opportunity.  What I would welcome is article information, places that 
>> discuss why pdf for example and captcha remain barriers.  Likewise posts 
>> from you if you have met with issues with either service would be welcome. I 
>> want them to fix this for everyone, not just sweep me under the corporate 
>> rug.  That they are shifting all document responsibility t the end user is 
>> disturbing, since if you have an issue say with security, you will bare the 
>> blame for any discrepancies in documentation.
>> 
>> Additionally, if part of your professional life is access, share under your 
>> professional umbrella.  If I get enough research responses, i will construct 
>> a solid document for them, and include as many other people as I can.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Karen
>> 
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