There's a service called Skype Premium, and apparently paying for that gives
you focus straight on the contact list when the app is launched. From what I
understand, though, skype Premium's only main advantage is video calling
features.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility

What does one mean pay, Skype is a free app.

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On 15 Dec 2011, at 02:09 PM, Daniel Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> Um, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I agree with Missy, 
> why should we have to pay just to get focus on the contact list? Plus, 
> it's honestly not that hard to move focus to the contact list once 
> skype starts, but that's besides the point, I suppose.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 7:46 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Skype Accessibility
> 
> OK. This makes no sense to me. So I'd have to pay for skype to get it 
> to start up in a layout that actually makes sense? How much would that 
> cost? I hate that html thing, and I think it's ridiculous that I can't 
> have a different layout, especially at startup. If you could please 
> clerify this a bit further, I would really appreciate it.
> Missy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:35 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility
> 
> Re: startup focus/source.
> By design.
> Paid users DO have focus in contact list.
> Non paid users have focus in Skype Home which is the "random HTML content"
> described.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On 12/15/11, Kevin Chao <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You are using wrong way to filter.
>> There is specific quickfilter field in the main window toolbar.
>> You need to enter the "toolbar" table and then navigate to a field 
>> which is labelled as "Search search text field".
>> Using this quickfilter will present all relevant conversations and 
>> contact matching the string you entered.
>> 
>> Kevin
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/15/11, Mr. L. Alexander <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I very much agree.
>>> 
>>> fixing accessibility issues in an app requires more than just 1 
>>> simple fix, as soon as you change 1 component in an app, the domino 
>>> affect occurs.
>>> that
>>> change affects the way another component, whether it be a script, 
>>> function, library object, etc to behave differently, thus meaning 
>>> that each part has to be edited several times to solve. So, yes it's 
>>> going to take a few version updates to resolve. lets's not forget 
>>> who owns skype now though...
>>> MICROSOFT! so that explains one thing.
>>> 
>>> Even though we're a small group (thanks for highlighting my comment) 
>>> we still have rights of equality and access. it's just a question of 
>>> working in partnership with developers, even if it means becoming 
>>> beta testers officially and having direct input.
>>> 
>>> lew
>>> 
>>> On 15 Dec 2011, at 10:27, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I was going to keep my big politically incorrect mouth shut in this 
>>>> thread, but i can't help saying this: Do *not* expect the bugs we 
>>>> report will be fixed 10 minutes ago, because they won't. Maybe 
>>>> it'll take several updates if at all. Someone said a good thing in 
>>>> another thread a while back, namely that we are such a tiny little 
>>>> group that we are not in any way prioritized. I don't say this to 
>>>> discourage anyone, just telling as it is. I know how frustrating it 
>>>> can be to wait for bugs to be fixed and issues to be looked at, but 
>>>> have patience, that's all i can say. Only my
>>>> 2
>>>> cents worth in this matter, now flame me however much you like.
>>>> /Krister
>>>> 
>>>> 14 dec 2011 kl. 23:35 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu:
>>>> 
>>>>> Kevin,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd like to know, if all our reports are going to turn into 
>>>>> something positive?  I just do not want to see that we provide the 
>>>>> reports and when a new version of Skype comes out things remain 
>>>>> the same.  We have have had lots of updates to Skype and we have 
>>>>> never seen things fixed.  I am not trying to be negative but 
>>>>> rather I'd like to see the positives.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>> On 14 Dec 2011, at 22:03, Kevin Chao wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks everyone! I've taken all the feedback that's been shared 
>>>>>> via this thread, especially as it relates to VoiceOver 
>>>>>> accessibility and Skype of what's not working at all, what can 
>>>>>> work better, or what people would like to see. I've taken all of 
>>>>>> this and provided all this feedback as individual bug reports 
>>>>>> into the bug tracking system. Each specific 
>>>>>> issue/suggestion/request are individual bug reports with lots of 
>>>>>> required detailed information. The Beta Manager, Product Manager, 
>>>>>> and Engineers all have
> seen these reports or will see them very soon.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 12/14/11, Jessica <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> I had the same problem on my pc, even with scripts installed, so 
>>>>>>> you're not the only one.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Missy Hoppe" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:30 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Skype Accessibility
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi! I'm probably not enough of a skype user to really chime in 
>>>>>>>> on this, but I just find the whole layout very confusing. For 
>>>>>>>> example, when I open skype now, it always goes to this html thing.
>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>> seems that it used to open on a list of my contacts, and that 
>>>>>>>> said list didn't have those annoying favorites checkboxes.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> think the layout should be more customizeable, especially at 
>>>>>>>> start-up. Or maybe I'm just missing something? Also, finding
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> missed events, especially contact requests, needs to be a bit 
>>>>>>>> more intuitive, but there again, it could just be my lack of 
>>>>>>>> experience. I never use skype at all on my PC; if I bother with 
>>>>>>>> it at all, it's only on the mac. I'm sorry if the things I'm 
>>>>>>>> requesting are already possible and I'm just too inexperienced 
>>>>>>>> to  figure them out, but off the top of my head, those are the 
>>>>>>>> suggestions I have.
>>>>>>>> Missy
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin 
>>>>>>>> Chao
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:01 AM
>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries
>>>>>>>> Subject: Skype Accessibility
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS 
>>>>>>>> clients, especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I 
>>>>>>>> would like to know what it is you, the user like to see as new 
>>>>>>>> functionality for VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon 
>>>>>>>> when it comes to Mac OS X VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype 
>>>>>>>> client.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of 
>>>>>>>> suggestion's/issues that you are able to share, it will provide 
>>>>>>>> a better Skype user experience, making it more accessible and 
>>>>>>>> usable for all of us.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Kevin
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