OK. This makes no sense to me. So I'd have to pay for skype to get it to start 
up in a layout that actually makes sense? How
much would that cost? I hate that html thing, and I think it's ridiculous that 
I can't have a different layout, especially at
startup. If you could please clerify this a bit further, I would really 
appreciate it.
Missy


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility

Re: startup focus/source.
By design.
Paid users DO have focus in contact list.
Non paid users have focus in Skype Home which is the "random HTML content" 
described.

Kevin

On 12/15/11, Kevin Chao <[email protected]> wrote:
> You are using wrong way to filter.
> There is specific quickfilter field in the main window toolbar.
> You need to enter the "toolbar" table and then navigate to a field
> which is labelled as "Search search text field".
> Using this quickfilter will present all relevant conversations and
> contact matching the string you entered.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> On 12/15/11, Mr. L. Alexander <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I very much agree.
>>
>> fixing accessibility issues in an app requires more than just 1
>> simple fix, as soon as you change 1 component in an app, the domino
>> affect occurs.
>> that
>> change affects the way another component, whether it be a script,
>> function, library object, etc to behave differently, thus meaning
>> that each part has to be edited several times to solve. So, yes it's
>> going to take a few version updates to resolve. lets's not forget who
>> owns skype now though...
>> MICROSOFT! so that explains one thing.
>>
>> Even though we're a small group (thanks for highlighting my comment)
>> we still have rights of equality and access. it's just a question of
>> working in partnership with developers, even if it means becoming
>> beta testers officially and having direct input.
>>
>> lew
>>
>> On 15 Dec 2011, at 10:27, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>
>>> I was going to keep my big politically incorrect mouth shut in this
>>> thread, but i can't help saying this: Do *not* expect the bugs we
>>> report will be fixed 10 minutes ago, because they won't. Maybe it'll
>>> take several updates if at all. Someone said a good thing in another
>>> thread a while back, namely that we are such a tiny little group
>>> that we are not in any way prioritized. I don't say this to
>>> discourage anyone, just telling as it is. I know how frustrating it
>>> can be to wait for bugs to be fixed and issues to be looked at, but
>>> have patience, that's all i can say. Only my
>>> 2
>>> cents worth in this matter, now flame me however much you like.
>>> /Krister
>>>
>>> 14 dec 2011 kl. 23:35 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu:
>>>
>>>> Kevin,
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to know, if all our reports are going to turn into
>>>> something positive?  I just do not want to see that we provide the
>>>> reports and when a new version of Skype comes out things remain the
>>>> same.  We have have had lots of updates to Skype and we have never
>>>> seen things fixed.  I am not trying to be negative but rather I'd
>>>> like to see the positives.
>>>>
>>>> Kawal.
>>>> On 14 Dec 2011, at 22:03, Kevin Chao wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks everyone! I've taken all the feedback that's been shared
>>>>> via this thread, especially as it relates to VoiceOver
>>>>> accessibility and Skype of what's not working at all, what can
>>>>> work better, or what people would like to see. I've taken all of
>>>>> this and provided all this feedback as individual bug reports into
>>>>> the bug tracking system. Each specific issue/suggestion/request
>>>>> are individual bug reports with lots of required detailed
>>>>> information. The Beta Manager, Product Manager, and Engineers all have 
>>>>> seen these reports or will see them very soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/14/11, Jessica <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> I had the same problem on my pc, even with scripts installed, so
>>>>>> you're not the only one.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Missy Hoppe" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:30 AM
>>>>>> Subject: RE: Skype Accessibility
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi! I'm probably not enough of a skype user to really chime in
>>>>>>> on this, but I just find the whole layout very confusing. For
>>>>>>> example, when I open skype now, it always goes to this html thing.
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> seems that it used to open on a list of my contacts, and that
>>>>>>> said list didn't have those annoying favorites checkboxes.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> think the layout should be more customizeable, especially at
>>>>>>> start-up. Or maybe I'm just missing something? Also, finding
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> missed events, especially contact requests, needs to be a bit
>>>>>>> more intuitive, but there again, it could just be my lack of
>>>>>>> experience. I never use skype at all on my PC; if I bother with
>>>>>>> it at all, it's only on the mac. I'm sorry if the things I'm
>>>>>>> requesting are already possible and I'm just too inexperienced
>>>>>>> to  figure them out, but off the top of my head, those are the
>>>>>>> suggestions I have.
>>>>>>> Missy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:01 AM
>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries
>>>>>>> Subject: Skype Accessibility
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS
>>>>>>> clients, especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I
>>>>>>> would like to know what it is you, the user like to see as new
>>>>>>> functionality for VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon
>>>>>>> when it comes to Mac OS X VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype
>>>>>>> client.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of
>>>>>>> suggestion's/issues that you are able to share, it will provide
>>>>>>> a better Skype user experience, making it more accessible and
>>>>>>> usable for all of us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kevin
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>> Free Macs For The Blind.
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