Thanks Esther. 
First, it's amazing to me how stuff you know about this. I'm impressed. I'll 
save this info for that future iPad. I don't really need it for my iPhone. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

Eugenia Firth
[email protected]



On Apr 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Gigi,
> 
> Teresa is speaking about an iOS app:
> • Filer ($3.99) by Dan Leehr L.L.C.
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filer/id318884764?mt=8
> 
> It's a download app, but also lets you organize and play many formats of 
> documents and multimedia files within then app, with the benefit of generally 
> keeping your bookmark location.  Also a handy way to transfer downloaded 
> files so you can open them in other iOS applications.  Theres a quite 
> flexible web browser interface, with bookmarklets, too, as well as the 
> ability to download directly from your Dropbox, etc.
> 
> The nice feature is using this for documents reading and keeping your place.  
> I don't know how to get around Teresa's question about the behavior of 
> bookmarking for large files in Braille, though.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Apr 10, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
> 
>> Hi Teresa. 
>> I don't how I can use Safari in my case, since I'm getting the files off the 
>> internet. However, where do you get this Filer program? Does it come from 
>> the App store, and how much is it? 
>> 
>> Also, in as so far as your Vo messing up when you did a big file, I'm in 
>> Lion kitty. I don't remember which one you have. In my case, I wasn't moving 
>> around a lot in the file, and I suppose that might " had something to do 
>> with more. 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi 
>> 
>> Eugenia Firth
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, Gigi,
>>> 
>>> I'm glad this works for you. I tried reading a book in Notes and it seemed 
>>> that the file was too big, because my VO kept freezing and starting over, 
>>> no matter how many times I rebooted the IPod. I've basically started 
>>> reading larger files in Safari and Filer.
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
>>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 6:35 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Guys. 
>>>> I have been doing some experiments with Notes and braille, specifically 
>>>> brf files. Hey, guys, Apple never intended for it to be used like this, 
>>>> but Notes will swallow a whole brf file such as o you would get from Web 
>>>> Braille. Notes will do  transformation such as making all the text lower 
>>>> case, but it's faster to do that in TextEdit and also to avoid Mail Busy. 
>>>> However, Mail Busy did come out of it on ÿ computer. Also, Notes takes the 
>>>> display of the most irritating outhe control characters, the carriage 
>>>> returns and the line feeds. The spaces and the page breaks are displayed, 
>>>> but they are displayed in such a way that it doesn't interfere with where 
>>>> the goes on the idsplay. In other words, what's supposed to be in cell 40 
>>>> is. If i had known this sooner, I would have tried it two weeks ago when I 
>>>> was using my Mac to read brf files. 
>>>> 
>>>> Because Web braille files have a margin of cell 38, this reading using 
>>>> this method should better on them. This is because the computer insists on 
>>>> showing a blank line if there is acharacter in cell 40. There won't be a 
>>>> character in cell 40 in a Web braille file. I think the display of control 
>>>> characters is a silent one in notes, and that's why you see a blank line 
>>>> with files that have a 40 cell margin. But for those with cell 38 no what 
>>>> appears to be a blank line should be displayed. 
>>>> 
>>>> I hope all this makes sense. This means yours truly can use an iPad with 
>>>> Notes for my reports because they are much shorter than those brf files. 
>>>> It also means, that, if I wanted to, I could use either a Mac or the iPad 
>>>> to read a brf file with very little conversion. 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, 
>>>> Gigi 
>>>> 
> 
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