Hi Teresa. I have an 8 dot mode on my Mac. That's how I got computer braille to come up so I could read grade 2. Do you not get a choice for 8 dots when you go into the braille option in the vo utility?
I use TextEdit too for brf files, but I can't stop TextEdit from showing control characters. This is` important for me because I'm not reading; I am proofing brf files for pay. Since these characters take up one or two spaces on the display, any word that would normally end either in cell 39 or 40 is pushed over to left side of the display. Most of the time I can figure out what's what, but occasionally I have to get the cursor to the beginning of the line so I `an determine for sure if a transcriber has made an error and the word in the wrong place. I've figured out how to do that, but it would be more efficient If did not have to do that. Regards, Gigi [email protected] On Apr 10, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Hi, Gigi, > > I use Filer on my IPod, and I use textEdit on the Mac for brf files. Notes is > fine on the Mac, but really struggles for me on the Ipod. It used to be > possible to read brf files with Safari, but now there doesn't seem to be an > eight-dot mode on the Mac. > > Teresa > > "Slow down; you'll get there faster." > > On Apr 10, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > >> Thanks Esther. >> First, it's amazing to me how stuff you know about this. I'm impressed. I'll >> save this info for that future iPad. I don't really need it for my iPhone. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> >> Eugenia Firth >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> On Apr 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Gigi, >>> >>> Teresa is speaking about an iOS app: >>> • Filer ($3.99) by Dan Leehr L.L.C. >>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filer/id318884764?mt=8 >>> >>> It's a download app, but also lets you organize and play many formats of >>> documents and multimedia files within then app, with the benefit of >>> generally keeping your bookmark location. Also a handy way to transfer >>> downloaded files so you can open them in other iOS applications. Theres a >>> quite flexible web browser interface, with bookmarklets, too, as well as >>> the ability to download directly from your Dropbox, etc. >>> >>> The nice feature is using this for documents reading and keeping your >>> place. I don't know how to get around Teresa's question about the behavior >>> of bookmarking for large files in Braille, though. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Teresa. >>>> I don't how I can use Safari in my case, since I'm getting the files off >>>> the internet. However, where do you get this Filer program? Does it come >>>> from the App store, and how much is it? >>>> >>>> Also, in as so far as your Vo messing up when you did a big file, I'm in >>>> Lion kitty. I don't remember which one you have. In my case, I wasn't >>>> moving around a lot in the file, and I suppose that might " had something >>>> to do with more. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Gigi >>>> >>>> Eugenia Firth >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Gigi, >>>>> >>>>> I'm glad this works for you. I tried reading a book in Notes and it >>>>> seemed that the file was too big, because my VO kept freezing and >>>>> starting over, no matter how many times I rebooted the IPod. I've >>>>> basically started reading larger files in Safari and Filer. >>>>> >>>>> Take care, >>>>> Teresa >>>>> >>>>> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 6:35 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Guys. >>>>>> I have been doing some experiments with Notes and braille, specifically >>>>>> brf files. Hey, guys, Apple never intended for it to be used like this, >>>>>> but Notes will swallow a whole brf file such as o you would get from Web >>>>>> Braille. Notes will do transformation such as making all the text lower >>>>>> case, but it's faster to do that in TextEdit and also to avoid Mail >>>>>> Busy. However, Mail Busy did come out of it on ÿ computer. Also, Notes >>>>>> takes the display of the most irritating outhe control characters, the >>>>>> carriage returns and the line feeds. The spaces and the page breaks are >>>>>> displayed, but they are displayed in such a way that it doesn't >>>>>> interfere with where the goes on the idsplay. In other words, what's >>>>>> supposed to be in cell 40 is. If i had known this sooner, I would have >>>>>> tried it two weeks ago when I was using my Mac to read brf files. >>>>>> >>>>>> Because Web braille files have a margin of cell 38, this reading using >>>>>> this method should better on them. This is because the computer insists >>>>>> on showing a blank line if there is acharacter in cell 40. There won't >>>>>> be a character in cell 40 in a Web braille file. I think the display of >>>>>> control characters is a silent one in notes, and that's why you see a >>>>>> blank line with files that have a 40 cell margin. But for those with >>>>>> cell 38 no what appears to be a blank line should be displayed. >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope all this makes sense. This means yours truly can use an iPad with >>>>>> Notes for my reports because they are much shorter than those brf files. >>>>>> It also means, that, if I wanted to, I could use either a Mac or the >>>>>> iPad to read a brf file with very little conversion. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Gigi >>>>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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