Ah, I didn't look in the utility for the 8-dot Braille option. I may have to assign a keystroke to it, as I don't notice it by default.
Thanks, Teresa "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman On Apr 10, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hi Teresa. > I have an 8 dot mode on my Mac. That's how I got computer braille to come up > so I could read grade 2. Do you not get a choice for 8 dots when you go into > the braille option in the vo utility? > > I use TextEdit too for brf files, but I can't stop TextEdit from showing > control characters. This is` important for me because I'm not reading; I am > proofing brf files for pay. Since these characters take up one or two spaces > on the display, any word that would normally end either in cell 39 or 40 is > pushed over to left side of the display. Most of the time I can figure out > what's what, but occasionally I have to get the cursor to the beginning of > the line so I `an determine for sure if a transcriber has made an error and > the word in the wrong place. I've figured out how to do that, but it would be > more efficient If did not have to do that. > > Regards, > Gigi > > [email protected] > > > > On Apr 10, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> Hi, Gigi, >> >> I use Filer on my IPod, and I use textEdit on the Mac for brf files. Notes >> is fine on the Mac, but really struggles for me on the Ipod. It used to be >> possible to read brf files with Safari, but now there doesn't seem to be an >> eight-dot mode on the Mac. >> >> Teresa >> >> "Slow down; you'll get there faster." >> >> On Apr 10, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >>> Thanks Esther. >>> First, it's amazing to me how stuff you know about this. I'm impressed. >>> I'll save this info for that future iPad. I don't really need it for my >>> iPhone. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> >>> Eugenia Firth >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Gigi, >>>> >>>> Teresa is speaking about an iOS app: >>>> • Filer ($3.99) by Dan Leehr L.L.C. >>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filer/id318884764?mt=8 >>>> >>>> It's a download app, but also lets you organize and play many formats of >>>> documents and multimedia files within then app, with the benefit of >>>> generally keeping your bookmark location. Also a handy way to transfer >>>> downloaded files so you can open them in other iOS applications. Theres a >>>> quite flexible web browser interface, with bookmarklets, too, as well as >>>> the ability to download directly from your Dropbox, etc. >>>> >>>> The nice feature is using this for documents reading and keeping your >>>> place. I don't know how to get around Teresa's question about the >>>> behavior of bookmarking for large files in Braille, though. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Teresa. >>>>> I don't how I can use Safari in my case, since I'm getting the files off >>>>> the internet. However, where do you get this Filer program? Does it come >>>>> from the App store, and how much is it? >>>>> >>>>> Also, in as so far as your Vo messing up when you did a big file, I'm in >>>>> Lion kitty. I don't remember which one you have. In my case, I wasn't >>>>> moving around a lot in the file, and I suppose that might " had something >>>>> to do with more. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Gigi >>>>> >>>>> Eugenia Firth >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, Gigi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm glad this works for you. I tried reading a book in Notes and it >>>>>> seemed that the file was too big, because my VO kept freezing and >>>>>> starting over, no matter how many times I rebooted the IPod. I've >>>>>> basically started reading larger files in Safari and Filer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care, >>>>>> Teresa >>>>>> >>>>>> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 6:35 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Guys. >>>>>>> I have been doing some experiments with Notes and braille, specifically >>>>>>> brf files. Hey, guys, Apple never intended for it to be used like this, >>>>>>> but Notes will swallow a whole brf file such as o you would get from >>>>>>> Web Braille. Notes will do transformation such as making all the text >>>>>>> lower case, but it's faster to do that in TextEdit and also to avoid >>>>>>> Mail Busy. However, Mail Busy did come out of it on ÿ computer. Also, >>>>>>> Notes takes the display of the most irritating outhe control >>>>>>> characters, the carriage returns and the line feeds. The spaces and the >>>>>>> page breaks are displayed, but they are displayed in such a way that it >>>>>>> doesn't interfere with where the goes on the idsplay. In other words, >>>>>>> what's supposed to be in cell 40 is. If i had known this sooner, I >>>>>>> would have tried it two weeks ago when I was using my Mac to read brf >>>>>>> files. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Because Web braille files have a margin of cell 38, this reading using >>>>>>> this method should better on them. This is because the computer insists >>>>>>> on showing a blank line if there is acharacter in cell 40. There won't >>>>>>> be a character in cell 40 in a Web braille file. I think the display of >>>>>>> control characters is a silent one in notes, and that's why you see a >>>>>>> blank line with files that have a 40 cell margin. But for those with >>>>>>> cell 38 no what appears to be a blank line should be displayed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope all this makes sense. This means yours truly can use an iPad >>>>>>> with Notes for my reports because they are much shorter than those brf >>>>>>> files. It also means, that, if I wanted to, I could use either a Mac or >>>>>>> the iPad to read a brf file with very little conversion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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