Actually, it doesn't work as it should for pop mail either. In mail 
preferences, I have checked the option to have erased mail deleted when I quit 
mail. It has done this once. Most of the time, when I finish going through my 
Email, I have to just do the Shif-command-delete to get the trash emptied. And 
I know plenty of people who think that Apple has broken many things in Mail 
with version 5, and not just VO-related stuff either. 

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On Apr 28, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:

> When I went into gmail settings, I could not find anything to enable 
> immediate deletion of messages.  I recall some time ago when there was an 
> option in Google Labs supporting an option to make gmail's IMAP emulation 
> work like normal IMAP servers but I haven't heard anything more on this since 
> then.
> 
> In the mean time, the messages I delete with the delete key are now placing 
> messages into a folder called Deleted messages.  I guess I will have to go 
> this route for now and use Mutt email client to go in and move them all over 
> to [Gmail]/Trash from time to time.  Or just go back to moving them to Trash 
> manually each time I wish to delete stuff.  Frankly, the the delete function 
> in Apple Mail for Lion is not doing the job the way I want it to.  It might 
> work well for POP or standard IMAP but not for gmail IMAP.
> 
> On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:00 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Hello Caitlyn et al, 
>> 
>> I read your message very carefully.  
>> 
>> Currently, I have several G Mail iMap accounts that I access with Apple
>> Mail.  I have no problems at all in deleting messages from any of them; I
>> have re-installed Lion several times since its release without having ever
>> experienced the problem you and others are currently reporting.  
>> 
>> When I wish to delete a message from either a conversation or the delete the
>> entire thread, in Standard view, I simply press the BackSpace key on the
>> keyboard.
>> 
>> Now, before exiting Mail, I use the key combo Command+Shift+Backspace in
>> order to empty the messages currently marked for deletion.  I answer yes, in
>> the confirmation Dialog box and they are permanently deleted.  
>> 
>> Now you may be saying, "Yes, Mark, I do this as well yet it does not work."
>> To which I will reply,  I understand.  
>> 
>> The problem is that there is a setting that must be configured from within
>> your G Mail account, itself, on the web to enable the client to have access
>> in order to permanently delete the mail.
>> 
>> It's been a while since I set this up but, go to your G Mail web account.
>> Somewhere in the Options, you will see something that reads like "Delete
>> Messages Immediately".  This will be unchecked.  You must place a checkmark
>> in this option.  Then, if all goes well and "the water don't rise," as the
>> saying goes (smile) you should be in business.
>> 
>> While you're in that area of your G Mail account, review all of the message
>> options in case I am, most likely, forgetting something else.  
>> 
>> One more thing, I have my G Mail account setup so that, when using either
>> Apple Mail or Microsoft Outlook, I can quickly and easily undelete any
>> message marked for deletion (before the purge), by using key-combo Command+Z
>> on the Mac or Control+Z in Windows 7.  If you would like to know how to
>> configure this for your G Mail account, check out episode 70 of the Candle
>> Shore podcast.
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:08 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: Caitlyn Furness
>> Subject: mail weirdness
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I hope somebody has some suggestions about my mail problem.
>> 
>> After a reinstall of Lion a couple weeks ago, I of course had to reinput my
>> mail account.  I am using my gmail account.  Now,, mail isn't deleting my
>> messages after I read them.  The next time I reopen mail, the same messages
>> are back again!
>> 
>> In mail preferences, I have it set to delete the trash when quitting mail,
>> and to not leave things on the server.
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong?
>> 
>> Before I had to reinstall Lion, my gamil account didn't act like this!
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Caitlyn
>> 
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