Thanks Esther. It looks like on the pro version that when you choose range, 
there's a map there. I'll have to ask my sighted husband about that, although 
he showed interest in looking at the birds when I asked him. However, I'm going 
to Apple Corps of Dallas on Saturday, and I can get oi them to check it out. 

I now have a couple of apps I need to play with some more. I will save your 
post. 

Regards,
Gigi 

Eugenia Firth
[email protected]



On May 10, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Gigi and Christine,
> 
> There's an extensive set of help instructions under the "help" button, but 
> I'll try to summarize. The search button (second button of five on the bottom 
> of the screen) brings you to a screen with different search categories as 
> well as a search field where you can type in criteria. As you add criteria 
> and move back to the search page, you're told how many birds match your 
> criteria, and then you can either continue to set search criteria until you 
> double tap the "View" button in the top right corner, or decide to start an 
> entirely new search by double tapping the "Reset" button in the top left 
> corner.
> 
> Here's an example.  Double tap the "search" button. The search categories are 
> grouped under headings "Basic Group", "Song", "Body Related", "Flight 
> Related", "Pattern Related", "Head Related", and "Miscellaneous".  So let's 
> say I wanted to search for birds that are observed in Texas during May, 
> according to a particular song pattern.  Under the "Basic Group" heading 
> there's an option for "Observed State/Month". Double tap this, and on the 
> State/Month page, first set the state to "Texas" using the picker item on the 
> top half of the screen.  Then flick down to select the month of "May" by 
> double tapping to check this box.  Once you set this combination, the heading 
> at the top of the screen will change to "State/Month" (424).  The button at 
> the top right is "Clear All" to reset your choices on this screen, and at the 
> top left is "Search, back button" to return to the main search screen, which 
> will now announce "424 birds matched" for the heading at the top of the page. 
> For this page, the "Reset" button is at the top left, and the "View" button 
> is at the top right.  
> 
> Now, let's add a search by "Song Pattern", which is one of the two categories 
> under the "Song" heading search category on the main search page.  The 
> options are "Falling", "Flat", "Rising", and "Sing-song".  Each time you 
> double tap a category, you'll get examples of this pattern as well as 
> checking the button, which you can uncheck either by double tapping the 
> category again, or by flicking to the button and double tapping. Each 
> specific search screen lets you clear all search criteria with a "Clear All" 
> button in the top right, and return to the main search screen with a "Search, 
> back button" in the top left. In addition, once you return to the search 
> field, the number of matched birds in the heading at the top of the page gets 
> changed, and the entry under the search category gets amended.  (For the 
> "Observed State/Month" category this is only the number of birds, since you 
> could have selected multiple months).  So let's say I choose "Sing-song" for 
> the song pattern and return to the search page.  There are still 95 birds.  I 
> select "Song" under the "Song" heading search category, and double tap 
> "Quack-quacking". (I'm not going to list the song types on this screen -- 
> this is a really long list). Again, this demonstrates the song and also 
> checks the button, and if I want to uncheck it I flick right and double tap 
> or just double tap the category again.  As before, I can use the "Clear All" 
> button at the top right or the "Search, back button" at the top left to 
> return to the main search screen.  You can check multiple categories, before 
> returning to the main search screen, but I'll just choose one.  I now have 4 
> birds matched that are observed in Texas in May, with a "Quack-Quacking" song 
> and a "Sing-song" song pattern.  Each of these selections is noted as I flick 
> through the relevant search categories.
> 
> To view the matched selections, double tap the "View" button at the top 
> right.  I get entries for "Gray Catbird", "Northern Mockingbird", "Northern 
> Shoveler", and "Reddish Egret", with brief descriptions.  To actually play 
> the song and get detailed information, double tap on a selection, then double 
> tap the "Speaker small" button in the bottom left corner.  There are multiple 
> sample tracks for this bird, and also a list of similar sounding bird calls.
> 
> If you want to just type in a search entry to add in the search field on the 
> main search page, just double tap the "Search" button in the bottom right 
> corner of the virtual keyboard to add it.  The problem is knowing what 
> categories to use.  If I type in "red", the matched entries go down to 1 bird 
> (the "Reddish Egret".  To remove my typed search keyword I have to flick to 
> the "clear text" button in the search box and double tap to remove it.
> 
> Hope this helps.  I learned on one of the free, lite versions for iBird that 
> had many fewer entries!  I don't know how to get the range description if it 
> isn't in the detailed description.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> 
>  
> On May 10, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
> 
>> I found the place, but I couldn't figure out how to complete the search. One 
>> of the tabs oo there is search at the bottom of the iPhone screen. Then not 
>> the lefthand side of the screen is the various things you can search by, at 
>> least it's the lefthand side as best I remember. I found the options like 
>> melodious, and other descriptive words for the songs. I couldn't find the Go 
>> to do the search. 
>> 
>> Eugenia Firth
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 10, 2012, at 7:45 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>> 
>>> I have a question as well.  The information for the app stated you could 
>>> search by bird sound -- but this implies there is a place in the app where 
>>> one can browse bird sounds.  I cannot find such a place. Any help is 
>>> appreciated.
>>> Christine
>>>  
>>> On May 10, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi guys. 
>>>> After Esther put the information on about iBird, i got it and am having a 
>>>> lot of fun with it. Here's my question, though, if anybody knows. If you 
>>>> want to do a search for birds in Texas and Louisiana, how do you do it? I 
>>>> got the check boxes checked for both states, but I couldn't find the 
>>>> button or whatever to tell it to list them. I did browse the list of all 
>>>> 900 or so, but how, with VoiceOver on, that is, do you get just those in 
>>>> Texas and Louisiana?
>>>> 
>>>> The other thing is, can you get the range of the birds listed in words and 
>>>> not a map? 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, 
>>>> Gigi 
>>>> 
>>>> Eugenia Firth
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
> 
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