Hi there!
Well, I am not a trainer, but I thought I'd
describe my difficulties understanding the
interactive concept and see if it helps at all. I
do understand your bookshelf analogy except for
one thing. If I'm in the finder and come upon a
folder name, I just issue an open command to go
into it. If I don't want to open the folder, I
just hit the arrow key to move to the next folder
title. So, I didn't have to do anything there
with VoiceOver. I'm really baffled by things like
sometimes having to interact with a table and
sometimes just arrowing down, as I do in the
messages table in mail. So, what did I finally do
for me? Gave up on trying to get the concept. <grin.>
I did better with rote learning. Interact here.
Don't interact here. Try something and if it
doesn't work, try interacting. I can't think of
anything in the Windows screen-reader world that
is like this. So the best phrase I was able to
offer myself was this, some things just don't
happen automatically in VoiceOver and you have to
tell VoiceOver what you want it to look at.
That's the only thing that allowed me to deal
with what seems like inconsistencies in when one
does or does not need to interact with something.
It is kind of a goofy thing and I can see why some people would struggle.
And you're right. The only real answer is
practice, trial and error. See if it helps to
tell your student that other people have trouble
figuring this out too and we all just try things
together. Maybe if your student can then relax a
bit about it, not getting to that brain ache
place trying to understand something, he or she
may start practicing again. I know I've given
myself breaks, just to let my own frustration wind down.
And good for you for continuing to try to reach
this person. Keep it up. <grin.> Hope this helps.
Veronica
At 09:10 PM 6/3/2012, you wrote:
The way I explain VoiceOver's interacting with
an object or region is to think of what a
sighted person does with their eyes when they
want to focus in on a small region of the
screen. They squint their eyes a bit and narrow
their gaze and focus in on a region of the
screen that might have small details. It's also
akin (sort of) to the zoom feature of a camera;
when in zoom mode, you can only see certain
elements at a time, but you can see great detail.
HTH.
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