I use an intel branded board marketed by ASUS. its called the IL9-pro. it uses an intel branded USB hub, SATA bridge and some other goodies. I use a sound blaster audigy for sound (and that includes a fully supported firewire 400 interface). the cpu is a core solo running at 2.66 GHZ and there is 4 GB of ram onboard. I only had to install 2 custom drivers: one for the nvidia 9800 GTS and the other for a DVD drive). I actually have very few problems. about the only one is that my iPhone is not recognized due to the version of USB driver being a roll back to 10.5.x).
-eric On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > I think it gets messier in getting OSX running on a generic box and having it > recognize whatever flavor of hardware pieces you have in there. I'm assuming > you can't just use any old video, USB, Wifi, Ethernet, BlueTooth, Firewire, > Sound in/out, SATA, video camera etc. Or at least getting it all to work at > the same time would be problematic. If your USB works at all then anything > USB should be happy, but there is so much more. > > CB > On 6/20/12 11:45 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: >> if it is supported in the OS and the interface device uses USB, then it >> should work. I use an apple branded keyboard here (2 USB ports on it and an >> apple mouse) and they work as good as on a real apple. >> >> -eric >> >> On Jun 19, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi, I sure have. some company out of Florida I believe were making them. >>> It is straight up, no doubt about it, illegal to run Mac OS on non branded >>> Apple hardware. Sure, I don't think Apple is dragging down people who are >>> doing this as a 1 off. But honestly, money aside for a second, I think >>> running the Mac OS on some generic PC lessons the Mac experience, and you >>> also miss out on certain things. For example, I'm assuming you can't take >>> advantage of a multi gesture trackpad to use in conjunction with >>> Voiceovers, trackpad commander? >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> [email protected] >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Eric Oyen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I never heard of any businesses being sued, much less even being in >>>> business. I run a hackintosh here (intel core solo, 2.66 Ghz cpu, 8 GB >>>> ram, ASUS IL9-Pro motherboard, 1.5 TB HDD storage, DVD-r/+r >>>> burner/rewriter and some extras. >>>> >>>> it runs reasonably well, except that I cannot update it to 10.6.8 without >>>> some help (the proceedure is tricky as I also have to install a USB >>>> rollback driver). >>>> >>>> cost of this machine: $400. >>>> >>>> still, I cannot see spending nearly $8,000 for a top of the line machine >>>> (that is almost as expensive as a 80 column braille display.). >>>> >>>> -eric >>>> >>>> On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>>> >>>>> Of course installing OSX on one of these violates the terms of the >>>>> license and every company that ever tried to make a business out of >>>>> selling hackintoshes has been sued into oblivion. Interesting from the >>>>> technical standpoint but be aware of what you're getting into. >>>>> >>>>> CB >>>>> On 6/18/12 8:41 PM, Blinkin wrote: >>>>>>>> All, >>>>>> For those who may be thinking about getting a new Mac read below. Pretty >>>>>> good stuff. >>>>>>>> From: Lifehacker <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Subject: Build the Mac Pro That You Wish Apple Released >>>>>>>> Date: June 18, 2012 5:04:07 PM CDT >>>>>>>> Reply-To: Lifehacker <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> June 18th, 2012Top Story >>>>>>>> Build the Mac Pro That You Wish Apple Released >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> • >>>>>>>> • >>>>>>>> • >>>>>>>> • >>>>>>>> • >>>>>>>> By Adam Dachis >>>>>>>> Last week Apple updated their Mac Pros to cutting-edge processors from >>>>>>>> 2010, even older graphics cards, and all the USB 2.0 ports you'll ever >>>>>>>> need. With a proper update unlikely until 2013, we thought we'd bridge >>>>>>>> the gap with Hackintoshes—the faster, cheaper Mac desktops you can >>>>>>>> build yourself with standard PC hardware. By making your own "Hack >>>>>>>> Pro" you'll get the up-to-date machine Apple won't provide, and you'll >>>>>>>> also save a lot of money in the process. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac Pro update everyone was hoping for was supposed to include >>>>>>>> Intel's latest Ivy Bridge processors, which were designed to be >>>>>>>> smaller, more powerful, and more power-efficient. With a desktop >>>>>>>> computer like the Mac Pro, power usage is still a fairly significant >>>>>>>> concern because a lack of efficiency can make for a pricier power >>>>>>>> bill. Additionally, with the >>>>>>>> immediately out-of-date Mac Pro starting at $2,499, you're already >>>>>>>> overpaying for a machine that's slower than the one you can build >>>>>>>> yourself. In this post, we're going to look at three mackintoshes you >>>>>>>> can create yourself, how they stack up against a comparable Mac Pro, >>>>>>>> and how much you'll save in the process. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Builds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ivy Bridge Hackintoshes are pretty new, and it wasn't until last week >>>>>>>> that OS X even supported the new processors officially. The builds >>>>>>>> we're looking at in this section are based on the work of people in >>>>>>>> the hackintosh community who've already taken the plunge. Where >>>>>>>> applicable, we'll mention the sources we used so you can dig deeper >>>>>>>> and learn more before getting started. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Fast: The Entry-Level Desktops >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> First let's start off with the entry-level machine. We're going to >>>>>>>> look at what Apple offers, what a hackintosh can offer, and how they >>>>>>>> compare in price and performance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Apple's Entry-Level Mac Pro; Total Price: $2,499 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here's what you get for that cool $2,499: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> • One 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processor >>>>>>>> • 6GB of RAM (3x2GB) >>>>>>>> • 1TB 7200 RPM Hard Drive >>>>>>>> • 18x SuperDrive >>>>>>>> • ATI Radeon HD 5770 with 1GB GDDR5 >>>>>>>> • Mouse and Keyboard >>>>>>>> Our Entry-Level Hack Pro; Total Price: $1,148 >>>>>>>> Here's an entry-level Hack Pro you can build for $1,148, which is less >>>>>>>> than half the cost of what Apple will give you: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> • Cooler Master RC-692-KKN2 Case ($90) >>>>>>>> • Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H Motherboard ($99) >>>>>>>> • Intel Core i7 3770 3.4 GHz CPU ($317) >>>>>>>> • MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti (448 Cores) PCI-E 16X Graphics >>>>>>>> Card ($300) >>>>>>>> • 8GB Corsair DDR3 1600 MHz RAM, 2x4GB ($50) >>>>>>>> • 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black 7200 RPM Hard Drive ($100) >>>>>>>> • Corsair Professional Series 650W Modular Power Supply ($117) >>>>>>>> • Asus 24x DVD-RW Serial ATA Internal Drive ($17) >>>>>>>> • SYBA FireWire 400/800 Card ($28) >>>>>>>> • Mac OS X Lion Download ($30) or Thumb Drive ($69) >>>>>>>> So, what's the difference? >>>>>>>> The Hack Pro is $1,351 cheaper. Of course, you get a nice Bluetooth >>>>>>>> keyboard and mouse with the Mac Pro, but you can always throw in aUSB >>>>>>>> Bluetooth adapter and whatever keyboard and mouse you want with all >>>>>>>> the money you'll be saving. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In terms of performance, the Mac Pro and Hack Pro are pretty evenly >>>>>>>> matched when it comes to the lesser-components (with the Hack Pro >>>>>>>> keeping a slight edge). This build even includes a FireWire 400/800 >>>>>>>> card so you have your standard Mac ports. Additionally, the >>>>>>>> motherboard supports USB 3.0 so you can have even faster data >>>>>>>> transfers than the current Mac Pro. The primary differences between >>>>>>>> Apple's entry-level Mac Pro and this build are between the CPU and >>>>>>>> graphics card. The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti in our build offers >>>>>>>> significantly better performance, so if your needs are GPU-intensive >>>>>>>> you're in much better shape with the Hack Pro. When it comes to the >>>>>>>> CPU, Apple's Mac Pro offers a 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processor >>>>>>>> to our 3.4 GHz Core i7. While the Xeon is a higher grade than the Core >>>>>>>> i7, the one Apple's using is kind of old and just not as fast. In fact >>>>>>>> CPU benchmarks tested both and the Core i7 came in at 10,455 and the >>>>>>>> Xeon at 6,070 (higher numbers are better). While benchmarks aren't >>>>>>>> everything, that's a pretty large performance gap between Apple's >>>>>>>> latest offering and a machine you can build for half the price. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The bottom line: The Hack Pro is faster than the Mac Pro in every >>>>>>>> category and it costs less than half what you'd pay Apple. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Faster: The Mid-Range Workstations >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Next we've got the mid-range machine. On Apple's side this means >>>>>>>> almost a $1,000 price hike. For the Hack Pro it's a difference of only >>>>>>>> around $100. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Apple's Mid-Range Mac Pro; Price: $3,424 >>>>>>>> Here's what you get for your $3,424: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> • One 3.33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon processor >>>>>>>> • 8GB of RAM (4x2GB) >>>>>>>> • 2TB 7200 RPM Hard Drive >>>>>>>> • 18x SuperDrive >>>>>>>> • ATI Radeon HD 5870 with 1GB GDDR5 >>>>>>>> • Mouse and Keyboard >>>>>>>> Our Mid-Range Hack Pro; Price: $1,276 >>>>>>>> Here's an mid-range Hack Pro you can build for $1,276, or a little >>>>>>>> more than one-third of the cost of a similar Mac Pro: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> • Cooler Master RC-692-KKN2 Case ($90) >>>>>>>> • Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H Motherboard ($99) >>>>>>>> • Intel Core i7 3770K 3.5 GHz CPU ($350) >>>>>>>> • MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti (448 Cores) PCI-E 16X Graphics >>>>>>>> Card ($300) >>>>>>>> • 8GB Corsair DDR3 1600 MHz RAM, 2x4GB ($50) >>>>>>>> • 2TB Western Digital Caviar Black 7200 RPM Hard Drive ($195) >>>>>>>> • Corsair Professional Series 650W Modular Power Supply ($117) >>>>>>>> • Asus 24x DVD-RW Serial ATA Internal Drive ($17) >>>>>>>> • SYBA FireWire 400/800 Card ($28) >>>>>>>> • Mac OS X Lion Download ($30) or Thumb Drive ($69) >>>>>>>> So, what's the difference? >>>>>>>> The Hack Pro is $2,148 cheaper and bears the same advantages over the >>>>>>>> Mac Pro as our entry-level comparisonwith one exception: while there >>>>>>>> are compatible motherboards for the 6-core Ivy Bridge processors, they >>>>>>>> aren't as widely used just yet and require a few more difficult steps >>>>>>>> than we want to throw at you. As a result, we opted to stick with a >>>>>>>> slightly faster but nonetheless quad-core processor. This means that >>>>>>>> Apple's Mac Pro has two additional processor cores. There shouldn't be >>>>>>>> much of a real-world advantage here, but that's what you're >>>>>>>> sacrificing. If you're okay with having a much faster, much cheaper >>>>>>>> machine with two less cores then the Hack Pro is the way to go. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Fastest: The High-End Powerhouses >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you want one of the fastest Hack or Mac Pros you can get, here are >>>>>>>> your options. We decided to go all out, so you'll want a fairly fat >>>>>>>> wallet in either case. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Apple's High-End Mac Pro; Price: $7,699 >>>>>>>> Here's what you get for your $7,699: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> • Two 3.06 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon (for 12 total cores) >>>>>>>> • 16GB of RAM (8x2GB) >>>>>>>> • 2TB 7200 RPM Hard Drive >>>>>>>> • 512GB Solid State Drive >>>>>>>> • 18x SuperDrive >>>>>>>> • ATI Radeon HD 5870 with 1GB GDDR5 >>>>>>>> • Mouse and Keyboard >>>>>>>> Our Mid-Range Hack Pro; Price: $2,012 >>>>>>>> Here's a high-end Hack Pro you can build for $2,012, or slightly more >>>>>>>> than a quarter of the cost of the comparable Mac Pro: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> • Cooler Master RC-692-KKN2 Case ($90) >>>>>>>> • Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H Motherboard ($190) >>>>>>>> • Intel Core i7 3770K 3.5 GHz CPU ($350) >>>>>>>> • MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti (448 Cores) PCI-E 16X Graphics >>>>>>>> Card ($300) >>>>>>>> • 16GB Corsair DDR3 1600 MHz RAM, 4x4GB ($95) >>>>>>>> • 2TB Western Digital Caviar Black 7200 RPM Hard Drive ($195) >>>>>>>> • OCZ Vertex 4 512GB Solid State Drive ($600) >>>>>>>> • Corsair Professional Series 650W Modular Power Supply ($117) >>>>>>>> • Asus 24x DVD-RW Serial ATA Internal Drive ($17) >>>>>>>> • SYBA FireWire 400/800 Card ($28) >>>>>>>> • Mac OS X Lion Download ($30) or Thumb Drive ($69) >>>>>>>> So, what's the difference? >>>>>>>> The obvious advantage the Mac Pro has over the Hack Pro is that it has >>>>>>>> three times the number of cores. That said, you'd be paying almost >>>>>>>> four times as much for just that. With a difference of $5,657, you >>>>>>>> could add another nine 512GB SSDs to this Hack Pro build and still >>>>>>>> have money left over. (Technically you'd run out of SATA connections >>>>>>>> for the drives, so don't actually do this.) So do the twelve cores >>>>>>>> matter? Only if you have applications that can actually take advantage >>>>>>>> of them. If not, you'll be wasting a lot of money and power. While >>>>>>>> this Mac Pro might be able to best its Hackintosh counterpart in some >>>>>>>> situations, we don't think that's worth the cost. We still say stick >>>>>>>> with the Hack Pro, unless you really need 12 cores. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At this point it's worth noting that the Hack Pro builds haven't >>>>>>>> changed much throughout the comparison. The graphics card was always >>>>>>>> faster, so it wasn't necessary to find a faster one. The CPU can hold >>>>>>>> its own against old Xeon processors so that wasn't much of an issue, >>>>>>>> either. When it came to the high-end build, we intended to offer a >>>>>>>> 240GB SSDinstead of the 512GB option, but Apple only allows you to add >>>>>>>> 512GB SSDs to your Mac Pro. If you don't need a gigantic solid state >>>>>>>> drive, you can save yourself about $400 by cutting the space in half. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It all comes down to this: when you start upgrading a Mac Pro, you >>>>>>>> spend a lot of money in the process. When you upgrade a Hack Pro, you >>>>>>>> don't. You also get a wider selection of what you can use in the >>>>>>>> machine. The entry-level model we put >>>>>>>> together is really fast, and barely over $1,000. It's still fast >>>>>>>> enough to rival the high-end Mac Pro. Until Apple figures out how to >>>>>>>> handle its professional machines, hackintoshes are going to be the way >>>>>>>> to go for desktop builds—especially on the higher end of things. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Additional Hardware Resources >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> These Hack Pro builds were put together thanks to a great (but >>>>>>>> slightly outdated) build guide by tonymacx86. They were updated for >>>>>>>> Ivy Bridge by reading posts in the build section of the tonymacx86 >>>>>>>> forums (like this one and this one). Be sure to check out those >>>>>>>> resources if you want to learn more about these builds or swap out any >>>>>>>> of the parts we chose. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Hackintosh Process >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Buying a bunch of parts is the starting point, but you still have to >>>>>>>> actually build your hackintosh. Fortunately, we've got you covered in >>>>>>>> all aspects. Here are a few resources we've put together to take you >>>>>>>> through the entire process—even if you run into problems: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> • How to Build a Computer from Scratch - Read this if you need >>>>>>>> help building the actual computer. >>>>>>>> • The Always Up-to-Date Guide to Building a Hackintosh - Read >>>>>>>> this for information on how to install OS X on your custom hardware. >>>>>>>> • BridgeHelper - This is a utility you'll want to read about >>>>>>>> and download, as it'll give you native Ivy Bridge support. >>>>>>>> • Learn About All the Special Files That Help Your Hackintosh >>>>>>>> Run - Once you're up and running, it's good >>>>>>>> to know what's making that possible. Here's a quick overview of >>>>>>>> all the special files that make your Hackintosh do its thing. >>>>>>>> • Install Mountain Lion on Your Hackintosh - Mountain Lion >>>>>>>> isn't out yet, but here's how you can install it if you can't wait. >>>>>>>> • Best Practices When Dual-Booting a Hackintosh - Want to run >>>>>>>> Linux and/or Windows, too? Here are the best practices to follow. >>>>>>>> • How to Troubleshoot a Hackintosh - If something goes wrong, >>>>>>>> consult this guide for tips on how to fix it. >>>>>>>> That should be everything you need to know. 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