Hello all, This is perhaps a late response but I found this a interesting discussion and I wasn't able to answer before because of holidays.
What's most frustrating for me is that we can't edit office-documents of others without distroying the made lay-out. The only option here should be to use ms office for mac but this isn't accessible at all, right? Also with pages, it seems not compatible with some (basic) lay-out tasks of ms office documents. So, to solve this, we should use windows or wate until??? Kind regards, William Windels Op 24-jul.-2012, om 15:17 heeft Daniel McGee <[email protected]> het volgende geschreven: > Hi Johnny, here is the direct homepage for Bean. > http://www.bean-osx.com/Bean.html > > I will now try to describe how you download and install it. > Note two things. Once you understand how to install an app on the Mac, then > it will apply to most apps that you want to use. With the exception of > sometimes there being installers for some apps for the Mac but what I'm about > to try to describe to you will probably be the most common situation. Another > note. I am using OSX Lion so if it differs from previous Mac OS versions then > I apologise but I reckon it shouldn't be all that much different. > > Ok lets use the website above as an example for you to install Bean and try > it out for yourself! By the way it is a free app as you may probably notice. > Once you go to the website, look for a link that called Download Bean. Once > you've found it, do a VO space bar on it to start the download. Afther you've > done this quickly press Command option L this will open the download dialog > box. Chances are that if this does;doesn't happen i.e. the dialog box doesn't > come up, it has been in my experience that it has already downloaded. > However, if you catch the dialog then just wait for it to disappear and that > should of downloaded it too. > Now we have downloaded the DMG short of for Disc Image note you will find > that this is a common thing that you will notice when downloading apps. > Anyway we now need to get to this DMG. Chances are that by default it should > be in your download's folder. A quick and nice easy way to get to it is to > issue the keystroke Command Shift H. This will take you to your home > directory. Once your there, locate the download folder and open it with > command O. In there there should be an item called Bean install. Open this > again with command O. there should be two times in there but what you want is > the one called Bean.app if it just says Bean then you haven't gotten your > file extensions enabled for you to reconize what extension your dealing with > but trust me its an .app extention. If you want I'll tell you about how to > enable that in another post but for now you want to copy this and place it in > the application's folder. Copy command is Command C. Now close all your > finder windows till you get to the desktop and to get to the application > folder its simply a command shift A keystroke now paste the app in with > command V and Bang! Its installed! The final thing you need to do is eject > the disc image from the desktop this can be done with command E. Now go back > to the application folder and open bean with Command O. A dialog box should > pop up but just hit ok or whatever it it says. I can't remember now but once > you dismiss that box, you will be in the bean application. Oh and to quit it, > that is Command Q once your done messing around getting a feel for the word > processor. > > I really hope this gets you going with downloading apps! I know at 1st it > seems a weird way to install apps but I've had a Mac now about half a year > and have come to think its a easier and simpler way to work with programmes > than windows. That's just an opinion though. > > Enjoy! > > Daniel > > On 24 Jul 2012, at 13:12, William Windels wrote: > >> Hello Johnny, >> The right link is: >> Download Bean >> >> If the link is not responding, try to save the source of the link with the >> save as option. >> >> Hope this helps, >> kind regards, >> William Windels >> Op 24-jul.-2012, om 08:17 heeft Johnny Angel! het volgende geschreven: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Well I too went to rosie's page and I found an executable install link for >>> Bean. I first did a cmd+enter on it and something happened, but I couldn't >>> tell you what. Then I tried a VO+spacebar and got a file not found on this >>> server with a 404 error page. So lets face it. I think I need to come to >>> grips with myself and admit that I am in need of some serious downloading >>> help. Wouldn't you say so? I really don't know if I actually downloaded >>> anything or not. you see, my so called State-paid instructor set my Macbook >>> up and never taught me anything. I remember finding a database program >>> recommended by this wonderful group, but he couldn't tell me how to get it >>> installed on my MBP. Anyway, please don't be too surprized if you feel a >>> little sorry for me, - I frankly don't blame you. <grinn >>> >>> Okay, enough silly stuff here. I would really like it if someone would be >>> kind enough to help me with downloading and installing programs on my Mac. >>> >>> Thanks much, >>> >>> Johnny >>> >>> On Jul 23, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> >>>> I went to Rose's site, http://www.chicksdigmacs.net, and searched for >>>> "bean". It came right up, complete with a download link. I haven't >>>> tried it yet, but that's how I will next time I boot into mac. >>>> >>>> On 7/23/12, Stacey Robinson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Daniel, >>>>> Where can I get this app. What do I search for? >>>>> Stacey and Chesley >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 23, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Alex, well I use a free app called Bean and it works for me. I mainly >>>>>> got it because Text Edit can't display your word count and tell me how >>>>>> many pages I have written. Where as with Bean all I have to do is one >>>>>> simple keystroke and I get all the info in a dialog box. I have also been >>>>>> able to save in that app in .doc word format and go between windows and >>>>>> Mac at college and home. I like both systems and I'm very glad I found >>>>>> this app. It also regularly updated too and I think the developer is >>>>>> aware >>>>>> of us Voiceover users because he fixed some labels that wern't correct in >>>>>> 3.8 and were supposively reporting there correct status in 3.9 LOL I >>>>>> didn't even know what labels he was referring to but it was mentioned in >>>>>> the change log so I assumed it was done. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway hope this helps. >>>>>> >>>>>> Daniel >>>>>> On 23 Jul 2012, at 19:26, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>> Try VO T to check formatting. >>>>>>> If it doesn't work, try highlighting the text first and then use VO T. >>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>> Matthew Campbell. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2012-07-23, at 1:42 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Okay, I wondered if format support would ocme into it. Still, from >>>>>>>> what I hear, any file formatted in one program will likely not be >>>>>>>> formatted correctly in another, so I don't see this as specific to >>>>>>>> Textedit. Headers and footers are things I never use, but I can see >>>>>>>> how lack of support would be limiting to other users. When using vo, >>>>>>>> is there a command equivalent to ins-f, to read formatting? I use that >>>>>>>> command to check centering, font, and other attributes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 7/23/12, Erik Burggraaf <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> You know, for most practical purposes, it can. I haven't really had >>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>> luck getting tables to work, but i'm still back on sl. Hopefully >>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> improved in two years, lol. I've certainly submitted professional >>>>>>>>> reports >>>>>>>>> with it, and had them look reasonably attractive. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> By the way, text edit's filetype support isn't very good. If you have >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> form >>>>>>>>> done up in word format, text edit will import it but pooch the >>>>>>>>> formatting. I >>>>>>>>> have to use open office writer for that sort of job, and writer >>>>>>>>> irritates >>>>>>>>> me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Have fun, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ERIK burggraafEbony ConsultingI am currently on the road and staying >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> touch on my handheld. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> I have a stupid question. I was looking at Textedit yesterday, and >>>>>>>>> found it supports lists, tables, bolding, justification, centering, >>>>>>>>> and so on. So, except for embeding images, what can MS Office, Libre >>>>>>>>> Office, or Open Office do that Textedit cannot? Basically, why the >>>>>>>>> need for a more powerful editor when this one seems to have it covered >>>>>>>>> pretty well? I always hear variation of, "the mac is fine unless you >>>>>>>>> want to actually get work done", and I was wondering about Textedit, >>>>>>>>> so I had a look, and it seems quite capable. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Not of this world, >>> I am born of The forty-second generation >>> A new, powerful race, never seen before. >>> >>> Wish to join? >>> >>> Initiation is completely FREE! >>> >>> NOTE: Limited time sensitive offer. >>> >>> Johnny "Angel" Chilelli >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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