Hi Donna,
profound thanks. That does make things more clear for me. Its funny as I have been meaning to ask about dragon dictate, may still for a different reason. However this moves me closer to a new mac, since I would have to use a full sized keyboard otherwise. the smaller laptop keyboards were just not giving me the sort of dexterity control I am used to with my main dos machine with he vo controls very awkward, and I was unsure how I would like all that flipping, smile. If one can control more things via voice, then this will make a big difference.


On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Donna Goodin wrote:

Karen,

There are two different speech features.  You can activate, one, both, or 
neither of them.

 One is Dictation.  this is new to ML.  It allows you to dictate what you want 
to write any time that you are in a text field.  This feature is also on the 
newest iPad, and the iPhone 4s.  You can, however, accomplish similar things  
on an older iPhone using apps like Dragon Dictation.

The other is an option in Accessibility under System Prefs called Speakable 
items.  This you can configure to let you control many different things on your 
Mac, opening and closing apps, opening and closing documents, finding the time 
and date, and many other things.  It is closer to Siri on the iPhone 4s.  It 
was in older versions of the Mac OS, but it did not work very well.

Hope this clarifies things.
Best,
Donna
On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

I see.  Anything you cannot control with this feature?
Karen.


On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Alex Hall wrote:

Yes, it is new to Mountain Lion. It is on the iPad, but only the third 
generation one. Of course, it is also on the iPhone 4S, in the form of Siri.
On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

Hi folks,
is dictation new to mountain lion?  if so, does it also exist  on things like 
the i-pad?
thanks,
Karen

On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Alex Hall wrote:

Yes, the key acts like a push-to-talk, so it works as long as you hold it down. I set 
mine up to listen for a keyword, but then I'm on a desktop so don't have to worry about 
battery life or heat. It's pretty neat, though; I can just call out, "Alex, what 
time is it" and get told, or tell it to open an app or quit something.
On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <for...@talknav.com> 
wrote:

I have found it thank you, my question now is why is it not working!

I have enabled it all, and turned the feature on, yet, even by changing the 
command key and restarting nothing happens.

what is unclear, is am I supposed to press and hold down the key I nominate?

thanks for any hands on practical usage info.


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On 31 Jul 2012, at 16:43, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:

What you are talking about is speakable items. Go to system preferences, 
accessibility, and find it in the table of options. From there, select the tabs 
you want and configure things as necessary. I recommend going to the commands 
tab, then the table of command sets, and turning on everything.
On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <for...@talknav.com> 
wrote:

sorry, where do you enable that bit though, I mean I can dictate no issue, but, 
how does one ask what day it is etc?


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On 31 Jul 2012, at 01:48, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:

These are commands you can give, like "what time is it" or "open iPhoto". You 
can even select buttons shown in the currently open dialog just by speaking them. If you are at all 
familiar with Windows speech recognition, it's like dictation is the text input part of that and 
speakable objects is the other part that accepts commands for system operations.
On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ok, easy enough. What is this about speakable Items I'm seeing how does that 
effect this. Sorry I'm so late coming into this, I've been at work today and 
not able to keep up with this a lot as they haven't upgraded us yet. Thanks for 
your patience guys.
On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:

You go into system preferences, then accessibility. Interact with a table and 
select dictation. Turn it on, then follow the dialogs. If you are using a usb 
microphone, you may have to going to sound preferences and set the input source 
to be that USB microphone.
On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm just getting used to Mountain Lion. How do you get into dictation, would 
love to try it out. Thanks.
On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:

Well Alex, good for you. I love the dictation as well. I am talking into a 
Griffin IMike with a Gigaware  are microphone attached to it. And, my air 
conditioner is going in the background. Not bad Huh?
I have only made small corrections to this dictation.?
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

On Jul 30, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I am also having great luck with dictation. I have a cheap desktop microphone 
going through a cheap usb sound card (since the mac doesn't support direct 
input of non-powered mics) but it is still doing really well. In my quick 
tests, it made no mistakes. This, paired with that amazing speakable items 
feature, will make me an even lazier person than I already am. Ironically, I 
didn't dictate this entire message. I did, however, dictate these last two 
sentences. I should also add that there's a ceiling fan going in the background.


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