A few tips for your difficulties: To keep textedit from formatting the text, first change to plain text mode by pressing command-shift-T. I use this to save web pages, pdf documents and the like all the time, and it works perfectly.
View source is accessible, it just includes the entire source as one line to Voiceover. Again, copy and paste into TextEdit for proper formatting. I agree with the problem for downloading a link. How I do it is this: turn off the trackpad. Put the mouse cursor on the link with fn-vo-command-f5. Then hold down control and press down the trackpad. Then you should get the link's context menu. A pain but it works consistently. Brandon On Jul 31, 2012, at 2:14 PM, David Eagle <onlineea...@googlemail.com> wrote: > pressing shift and the arrow keys does absolutely nothing, and it > never has for me. And Text Edit is too convoluted for what I want it > to do. If I want to to just copy the text in a webpage in windows, > then I will just select what I want and then paste it into notepad. If > I do this in Text Edit then it inserts all the formatting of the page > including links, making it impossible to just save as a text file. > Also, when you choose View Source for a website in windows, it is > accessible, but seemingly this is not the case on a Mac. This is one > of the reasons I don't think I'll ever fully use a Mac. > > I am currently struggling to download a file, because when I VO Space > on it, it opens the MP3 file and starts playing it. If I VO Shift and > M, then it doesn't give me a download option; it only gives me options > like 'print page'. And to think I was being complimentary about the > mac earlier. Then again I was on a PC at the time. > > Right I'm off to try and find out the keyboard shortcut for forcing > errant Macs to download a file. > > On 31/07/2012, Brandon Olivares <programmer2...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I use primarily vim to program. Just regular vim (I don't like macvim as >> much). If I want to do something real quickly, I use TextEdit. Sometimes >> I'll write something in TextEdit and then reformat it for indenting and such >> in vim. In vim you can reformat an entire file with: gg=G - and I find that >> immensely useful. Also the jump to closing brackets/parentheses, and a lot >> of other features, are indispensable. >> >> Brandon >> On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:09 AM, David Eagle <onlineea...@googlemail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> For me, mountain Lion is much faster, and much more reliable; says me >>> who's writing this email on a PC. >>> >>> Incidentaly, someone said that selecting text is easier now in >>> Mountain Lion. I have a very hard time selecting text in Safari. How >>> do people do it? What happens when you want to select a few >>> paragraphs? >>> >>> And Finally, Brandon: what to you use on the Mac for programming? I am >>> trying to find a simple programme like Notepad on the Mac so that I >>> can write HTML and XML files. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 31/07/2012, Missy Hoppe <mitmee....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi! I was trying to refrain from jumpint in on this topic, but I'm >>>> genuinely >>>> baffled by the original post and those who >>>> supported it. The original post may have reflected my feelings about >>>> lion, >>>> and I remember being tempted to sell my mac last >>>> year because I found lion to be so hateful, but I just made the best of >>>> it, >>>> knowing that updates would come along and fix the >>>> problems sooner or later. Sure enough, patience paid off. If I'm ever >>>> going >>>> to enjoy using my mac on a more regular basis, >>>> Mountain Lion will be the OS that makes that happen. So far as I can >>>> tell, >>>> almost everything I hated about lion has been >>>> fixed, and for the 1 or 2 very minor issues that still exist, I have my >>>> external drive that runs snow leopard. Mountain lion >>>> is significantly faster than Lion was, I haven't had any busies that I >>>> can >>>> recall, and best of all, VO always comes on at >>>> start-up, something which almost never happened under lion for me. Folks >>>> are >>>> definitely entitled to their opinions, but this >>>> almost seems like deliberate bashing just to cause drama. Maybe I'm the >>>> exception to the rule, but I simply can't imagine >>>> anyone thinking that Lion was better than ML. >>>> OK. I'm done now. I don't want to contribute too much to the drama, but >>>> I >>>> just had to speak up since for me, Mountain Lion is >>>> like a night and day improvement over Lion, and I'm genuinely excited >>>> about >>>> using my mac now. >>>> Missy >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tanner >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:17 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion >>>> >>>> I would definately agree, but if you remember, last year when Lion came >>>> out >>>> we went through this same complaint cycle. People want all the new >>>> stuff, >>>> but they want it to all work the same and don't want to take the time >>>> and >>>> energy to learn the new stuff. Some how it should >>>> just jump into their minds how to do everything. >>>> >>>> Perhaps, people should get the two new books from Bookshare about >>>> Mountain >>>> Lion and study those and learn before complaining. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <kawa...@me.com> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:42 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello All. >>>> >>>> Now what I might say may be something that people may not like but I am >>>> one >>>> for plain speaking and will not mince my words. However, this is my >>>> opinion. >>>> >>>> People say that they may be disappointed with one thing or another and >>>> it >>>> is >>>> their right to do so of course. >>>> >>>> But when anything new is released, there is going to be bugs etc as I >>>> have >>>> been a beta tester and know how hard people work to get a product into >>>> shape. >>>> >>>> So rather than people complaining as people seem to do, why not just >>>> send >>>> your concerns to Apple Accessibility and rather than bashing a product >>>> work >>>> with them to improve a producct? It would be so positivve to do that >>>> and >>>> sit and be passive about things as everyone would make a difference. If >>>> everything was plain sailing, life would be dull. So chill and think to >>>> do >>>> something positive. >>>> >>>> Kawal. >>>> >>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 04:41 AM, James Mannion <mannion...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> And when the accessible web browsing experience on the mac at least >>>>> matches windows, I'll buy it. busy busy busy, can't handel large >>>>> amounts of text, ignores this and that on the page, the entire web >>>>> thing was why I gave up on the mac thing and sold my mac mini. To do >>>>> the web on the mac you have to put on those rose colored glasses that >>>>> view everything from a pro Apple perspective and you can't require >>>>> that it gets the job done. >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> On 7/30/12, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Been reading all these posts the last few days about how amazed >>>>>> everyone is with Mountain Lion, and not sure what all the amazement >>>>>> iss about. >>>>>> >>>>>> It only took three days as I just had to use the Force Quit for >>>>>> Safari, and all it took was actually trying to login to my Yahoo >>>>>> Fantasy Baseball Page. I pulled it up and first the first time ever >>>>>> got a cookie message that said my safari cookie had expired, after I >>>>>> got out of that window safari did nothing but Busy Busy Busy for the >>>>>> better part of ten minutes before I went to force quit. >>>>>> >>>>>> I already had been very unimpressed with Mountain Lion between the VO >>>>>> space bar not properly selecting items I clicked on to the features >>>>>> being very blah Seriously dictation is useless for anyone who knows >>>>>> how to type. The notification center is useless especially if you keep >>>>>> Night Owl open like I do to Tweet, and Imessage, I'm sorry but I fail >>>>>> to see the point as most of us have our Iphone sitting right next to >>>>>> us. 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