Dear tim, Erik and Gigi, Thank you for such prompt responses.
Tim, I've tried working with the cursor tracking off. Things have improved somewhat for which I'm grateful but the second method you've described seems to be slightly better. Navigating with Vo+arrow does not seem to work very well at all. It's easier to work with just arrow keys having untethered cursor tracking which I have on by default. I'm not sure whether mouse cursor following voiceover cursor has any significance or not. Even with your method, my Macbook air seems to run very hot as soon as I start working in Numbers. Also, when entering text, Voiceover says busy. It is however an improvement, uncoupling cursor tracking. The odd thing is that I can jump to the first cell of my spreadsheet with vo+command+fn+left arrow and then by take keyboard cursor to voiceover cursor with vo+command+f4 and then turning cursor tracking on. But when I want to do the opposite, i.e. go to the end of my spreadsheet, things get impossible. I am placed below the end of the last data entry but I cannot seem to be able to navigate up the rows of entries, only within the row, i.e. to the side, and then the fan kicks in like mad again. Thanks again, my friends, for trying. I don't quite know what the answer for the future is. It is beginning to worry me exceedingly. I need to use a spreadsheet programme to calculate various bits of information as well as keep related records. So I have two tables going, both of which will ultimately have to be around 150 row long. Erik is reconsidering Tables application. I have had great hopes for it. Indeed, initially the developer was very sympathetic but with Mountain Lion Tables app has become less responsive. It has an impressive ability to jump to the beginning of row and end of row, top and bottom of column, jump to a particular cell, selecting a number of cells etc. But it has become so sluggish that I cannot use it with the long spreadsheets I have. It's a great shame. With best wishes Andrew On 18 Nov 2012, at 21:11, [email protected] wrote: > Today's Topic Summary > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics > > Unable to install Adobe Flash Player [1 Update] > Numbers reports "busy" when working with long spreadsheet [7 Updates] > Facebook on the Mac [4 Updates] > Renaming [4 Updates] > Opinions on I Mac. [1 Update] > Mail Busy ... [2 Updates] > Bookmark bar in Safari [3 Updates] > Amadeus Pro Tutorial [1 Update] > Barnes and Noble E-reads and nook: How Accessible are They? [1 Update] > super duper [1 Update] > Unable to install Adobe Flash Player > Rahul Bajaj <[email protected]> Nov 19 02:10AM +0530 > > Hi all, > > Whenever I try to install the latest update of Flash Player, I get an > error stating that the install failed. > I checked in the console and got the following error :"Installer: > CoreAnimation: warning, deleted thread with uncommitted > CATransaction; set CA_DEBUG_TRANSACTIONS=1 in environment to log > backtraces." > > I don't have a clue about what this means; I can barely make out that > it is in English. :) > So, any suggestions, please? > > Numbers reports "busy" when working with long spreadsheet > Andrew Lamanche <[email protected]> Nov 18 11:56AM > > Dear Listers, > > I've searched the archives of googlegroups for the answer but failed to find > one. > > My spreadsheet is now over 100 rows long and it is growing. Increasingly, > Numbers has become extremely sluggish, so much so that it is driving me mad. > The constant "busy busy" message, the sluggishness with which I can move from > cell to cell is making me think that I won't be able to use Numbers any more > for the purpose of working with long spreadsheet tables. Is there another > solution? Does anyone else experience the same issue? I've switched off > autocomplete text in cells and it has initially improved the issue but the > longer my spreadsheet becomes, the more impossible it is to use Numbers. I've > tried Tables application but it is even worse so I have to ditch it. Also, > with my spreadsheet having so many rows, it takes ages to arrow up and down > the columns to get to the end of the table in order to enter more data. Adn > And again, when arrowing up and down, Numbers is very slow and eventually > Voiceover gets stuck on one particular cell and keeps repeating its content > over and over again unless I arrow up and down very very slowly. > > I'd welcome any suggestions. I'd be reluctant to have to install Fusion but > if this is the only option, I may have to. But then I'd have to buy Ms Office > which is very expensive. > > In case it helps, I run Mountain Lion on Macbook Air, 2.13 GHz Intel Core 2 > Duo, 4GB RAM, 256 GB solid drive. Does Numbers perform better on newer > machines? I understand I can't add more RAM to my macbook air. It's late 2010 > and I have the maximum RAM possible. > > Many thanks for any suggestions > > Andrew > > erik burggraaf <[email protected]> Nov 18 08:32AM -0500 > > Hi, I've got a 2011 core i5 macbook pro with 8 gb ram and an ssd and all the > issues you reported. > i can sort of get around with the find feature some times, but not always. > IWork hasn't been updated since snow leopard. I'm wondering if it's partly a > compatibility issue with new operating systems. > > i tried tables but it will only import excel files. I'm not really very happy > with the way it imported them either. I'll try it again now and see if i can > force it into submission. > > Best, > > Erik Burggraaf > Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at > $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. > Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 > or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > > > Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> Nov 18 08:52AM -0700 > > Hi Andrew, > > I tried to duplicate this with a spreadsheet with over 220 rows but did not > get the same result. Granted, your sheet may be more complicated than mine > with more formulas and calculations. Have you tried turning Cursor Tracking > off (fn-VO-shift-f3 when navigating through the sheet? When using this > method, you will need to do an extra step to bring focus back together but it > does make the navigation experience smoother. > > With Cursor Tracking Off, there are two basic methods to navigate: > > 1. Navigate up or down, right or left either with VO keys down (lock them > down with VO-semi-colon if you wish) then bring things back together with > fn-VO-cmd-f4. > > 2. Use up/down and right/left arrows to navigate around then toggle Cursor > Tracking back on to bring focus back together. You'll need to navigate one > cell away then back again to force the focus together. > > Having Cursor Tracking off also allows the fast movement to the end of your > spreadsheet without causing things to go busy. > > See if this helps you at all. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > > Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> Nov 18 01:06PM -0600 > > Hi there > Ever since we went to Mountain lion, I have had problems with numbers slowing > down big time on large files. I have Faillone the one thing that helps a > little. I turned the mouse follows voiceover cursor off. I had it on, And I > have found that it makes a difference. Maybe I should see what happens if I > turn cursor tracking off as well, and see if that makes it even better. > Gigi > > Sent from my iPhone > > > Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> Nov 18 01:20PM -0600 > > Hi there > I don't know if this'll help or not, but there is a way to enter data into > numbers with TextEdit. I do this a fair amount. You can do this by putting > carriage returns to separate the Rose, and separate columns with the . So > let's say we have three columns and four rows that we want to make entries > for. After you get into TextEdit typing in the first entry for column one. > Press the tab key and type in the entry for column 2, press the again type > the entry and for column 3. Then press the carriage return to go back to > column 1 keep doing this and two you have all your data put it. Then select > all your text, copy to the clipboard, and going to numbers. Put your cursor > where you want To start putting in your data. Press option down arrow to add > in the number of rows you're going to meet. Then making sure your cursor is > in the right starting position paste what you just got from TextEdit. Right > now, Numbers doesn't seem to be having problems with pasted text. I have only > had problems when I try to type it in. I hope this helps > Gigi > > Sent from my iPhone > > > Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> Nov 18 01:29PM -0600 > > Hi there > I just thought of something else, but some other person on this list is going > to have to help you to do it if my ideas any good. Would it be possible to > put lion or Snow Leopard also on your Mac so that you could run your numbers > program on one of them instead? In my case, I could go to the App Store and > download again Lion. I don't think you have to pay again to do that. If I > continue to have problems with numbers and it gets worse, I may have to do > that myself. > Gigi > > Sent from my iPhone > > > erik burggraaf <[email protected]> Nov 18 11:14AM -0500 > > Hi, I'm revisiting tables. I think I might buy it. It's tediously slow, but I > can press command shift A and bring up a go to range dialog which is similar > to the one in excel. Then I can type the cell I want to visit, even if it's > 80 or 100 rows down the table and I will eventually get there. I turned on > the accessibility features in tables but I'm not sure they make a difference. > > I'm really clammering here. I've relied on spreadsheeting to run my business > for 3 years and since open office is now pooched, there hasn't been a single > decent solution for mac. > > I'm planning to buy tables just for the convenience of jumping to a cell by > co-ordinates which I can't off hand see how to accomplish in numbers. > > Best, > > Erik Burggraaf > Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at > $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. > Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 > or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > > > Facebook on the Mac > Richard Ring <[email protected]> Nov 18 11:56AM -0600 > > Greetings all, > I am attempting to do something I never thought I'd do, that is, set up a > facebook account. I'm trying this on my Mac book Pro running Mountain Lion > with all updates applied. One thing the page has is a combo box (rather than > a popup button) that you're supposed to use to search for friends. I can't > see a way to use this control. Is anyone using Facebook on the Mac? Not some > special Mac app, just their web site. I'm sorry to clutter the list with > this, as it is rather fundamental in nature. I can't use Facebook, and when > people search for me, they get errors. I don't know how much information one > has to add to have a full fledged account, but aparently, I don't. > Growl. > > Sent from my Mac Book Pro > [email protected] > > Michael Babcock <[email protected]> Nov 18 11:07AM -0700 > > Dan typing in that combo box, and then utilize it just your down arrow after > you type your friends name. It is a strange HTML form utilizing JavaScript > that Facebook has implemented because it looks visually "appealing". > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > Mauricio Almeida <[email protected]> Nov 18 01:09PM -0500 > > hello there, > > from my understanding, you completed your account, but is having issues with > that search box which is annoying, correct? > well. here's the deal with that: > it will not read you what you're typing, but it will actually search, so say, > if you type mauricio almeida and either press enter or press the search > button, it will search for mauricio almeida. > then you can just use vo u and navigate through headings to find results. > > hope this helps, > > mauricio > > Richard Ring <[email protected]> Nov 18 12:44PM -0600 > > Thanks, I'm gonna try this. > Sent from my Mac Book Pro > [email protected] > > > Renaming > Craig J Dunlop <[email protected]> Nov 18 12:07PM -0600 > > Using mountain lion how do I rename a file or folder? I've looked through the > menus and just can't seem to find the right command. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Michael Babcock <[email protected]> Nov 18 11:09AM -0700 > > Highlight the file or folder, and press your enter key. This is the key to > keys to the Right of the letter L. This will bring you into an edit field, > where you can simply type the new name of the file or folder. Simply pressing > enter again will rename the file or folder. I hope this helps. > Michael > > Sent from my iPhone > > > "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <[email protected]> Nov 18 01:12PM -0500 > > Oh, easy. > > When you're focused on the file or folder, hit your return key. This will > then present you with a text box with the folder or file name which you can > edit/rename at free will. When done, hit return again to accept the change. > > Thank you kindly, > > Christopher-Mark Gilland. > Founder of CLG Productions > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig J Dunlop" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 1:07 PM > Subject: Renaming > > > > "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <[email protected]> Nov 18 01:14PM -0500 > > Mike, you forgot the apostrophy key. It's 3 keys to the right of the letter > l. L, semicolon, apostrophy, then, return. > > LOL! Sorry, I couldn't resist. > > Thank you kindly, > > Christopher-Mark Gilland. > Founder of CLG Productions > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Babcock" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 1:09 PM > Subject: Re: Renaming > > > Highlight the file or folder, and press your enter key. This is the key to > keys to the Right of the letter L. This will bring you into an edit field, > where you can simply type the new name of the file or folder. Simply > pressing enter again will rename the file or folder. I hope this helps. > Michael > > Sent from my iPhone > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Opinions on I Mac. > Les Kriegler <[email protected]> Nov 18 12:40PM -0500 > > Hi Kawal, > > Your best bet is to contact Apple to discuss specs for the 2 machines. I have > a 21 inch model, and at the time, I believe I bought the fastest processor > they offered. This was in March of this year. > > Les > > Mail Busy ... > [email protected] Nov 17 03:26PM -0800 > > I used to receive a great deal of busy messages also when I was in mail or > some other programs but then I updated my ram to 4 gigabytes and things have > been running much smoother now. > > Mike Dailey <[email protected]> Nov 18 07:46AM -0800 > > Thanks Candie, > > I will try that. I only have 3GB right now, so hopefully that will help. > > > On Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:26:32 PM UTC-5, Candie wrote: > > Bookmark bar in Safari > Bill Holton <[email protected]> Nov 17 05:03PM -0500 > > Hi. > How do you delete a bookmark from the bookmarks bar in Safari? > Thanks. > > [email protected] Nov 17 03:20PM -0800 > > You can press the backspace key on the item you want to delete. > > "Bill Holton" <[email protected]> Nov 18 10:40AM -0500 > > Hi. > I must be doing something wrong, because all that does is throw me out of > the bar with no action taken. I have tried this both on the bookmark bar, > and on the list of bookmarks in the bookmarks menu. Any thoughts where I > might be going wrong? > > > > BILL HOLTON > Email: [email protected] > Direct: 386-624-6309 > Home Office: 1520 Loughton ST > DeLand, FL 32720 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Bookmark bar in Safari > > You can press the backspace key on the item you want to delete. > > Thanks. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Amadeus Pro Tutorial > Beefcakes <[email protected]> Nov 17 10:26PM -0500 > > Hi Esther, I would just wondering if you had ever compared Amadeus with > GarageBand and which when you feel is a better music editor and music > producer multitrack music producer? Just curious if you've ever done that, > thanks a lot, John > > Cakes > > > Barnes and Noble E-reads and nook: How Accessible are They? > Donna Goodin <[email protected]> Nov 17 05:07PM -0600 > > So is it possible to import B&N books into iBooks? I was under the impression > that that was not possible. > Cheers, > Donna > > super duper > arthur gindin <[email protected]> Nov 17 06:03PM -0500 > > shirt pocket > > On 11/17/12 3:11 PM, Wayne Coles wrote: > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group > macvisionaries. > You can post via email. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. > For more options, visit this group. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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