Hi Andrew I to get the numbers busy when typing in my large numbers file, as I mentioned earlier. However, I just ignore it. If I do that, I found it puts the data in there anyway. My fan comes on also and gets warm. I have a MacBook Pro. However, I have found that it doesn't seem to Hirte any. It only gets so hot and no hotter. I don't know if having a MacBook Air would make a difference. I have found that not letting the mouse follow the voiceover cursor makes a difference. If I have that turned on, then the behavior is much worse. Also, if you are using a braille display, it is easy to crash numbers so that you have to do a force quit Gigi
Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Andrew Lamanche <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear tim, Erik and Gigi, > > Thank you for such prompt responses. > > Tim, I've tried working with the cursor tracking off. Things have improved > somewhat for which I'm grateful but the second method you've described seems > to be slightly better. Navigating with Vo+arrow does not seem to work very > well at all. It's easier to work with just arrow keys having untethered > cursor tracking which I have on by default. I'm not sure whether mouse cursor > following voiceover cursor has any significance or not. Even with your > method, my Macbook air seems to run very hot as soon as I start working in > Numbers. Also, when entering text, Voiceover says busy. It is however an > improvement, uncoupling cursor tracking. The odd thing is that I can jump to > the first cell of my spreadsheet with vo+command+fn+left arrow and then by > take keyboard cursor to voiceover cursor with vo+command+f4 and then turning > cursor tracking on. But when I want to do the opposite, i.e. go to the end of > my spreadsheet, things get impossible. I am placed below the end of the last > data entry but I cannot seem to be able to navigate up the rows of entries, > only within the row, i.e. to the side, and then the fan kicks in like mad > again. > > Thanks again, my friends, for trying. I don't quite know what the answer for > the future is. It is beginning to worry me exceedingly. I need to use a > spreadsheet programme to calculate various bits of information as well as > keep related records. So I have two tables going, both of which will > ultimately have to be around 150 row long. > > Erik is reconsidering Tables application. I have had great hopes for it. > Indeed, initially the developer was very sympathetic but with Mountain Lion > Tables app has become less responsive. It has an impressive ability to jump > to the beginning of row and end of row, top and bottom of column, jump to a > particular cell, selecting a number of cells etc. But it has become so > sluggish that I cannot use it with the long spreadsheets I have. It's a great > shame. > > With best wishes > > Andrew > On 18 Nov 2012, at 21:11, [email protected] wrote: > >> Today's Topic Summary >> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics >> >> Unable to install Adobe Flash Player [1 Update] >> Numbers reports "busy" when working with long spreadsheet [7 Updates] >> Facebook on the Mac [4 Updates] >> Renaming [4 Updates] >> Opinions on I Mac. [1 Update] >> Mail Busy ... [2 Updates] >> Bookmark bar in Safari [3 Updates] >> Amadeus Pro Tutorial [1 Update] >> Barnes and Noble E-reads and nook: How Accessible are They? [1 Update] >> super duper [1 Update] >> Unable to install Adobe Flash Player >> Rahul Bajaj <[email protected]> Nov 19 02:10AM +0530 >> >> Hi all, >> >> Whenever I try to install the latest update of Flash Player, I get an >> error stating that the install failed. >> I checked in the console and got the following error :"Installer: >> CoreAnimation: warning, deleted thread with uncommitted >> CATransaction; set CA_DEBUG_TRANSACTIONS=1 in environment to log >> backtraces." >> >> I don't have a clue about what this means; I can barely make out that >> it is in English. :) >> So, any suggestions, please? >> >> Numbers reports "busy" when working with long spreadsheet >> Andrew Lamanche <[email protected]> Nov 18 11:56AM >> >> Dear Listers, >> >> I've searched the archives of googlegroups for the answer but failed to find >> one. >> >> My spreadsheet is now over 100 rows long and it is growing. Increasingly, >> Numbers has become extremely sluggish, so much so that it is driving me mad. >> The constant "busy busy" message, the sluggishness with which I can move >> from cell to cell is making me think that I won't be able to use Numbers any >> more for the purpose of working with long spreadsheet tables. Is there >> another solution? Does anyone else experience the same issue? I've switched >> off autocomplete text in cells and it has initially improved the issue but >> the longer my spreadsheet becomes, the more impossible it is to use Numbers. >> I've tried Tables application but it is even worse so I have to ditch it. >> Also, with my spreadsheet having so many rows, it takes ages to arrow up and >> down the columns to get to the end of the table in order to enter more data. >> Adn And again, when arrowing up and down, Numbers is very slow and >> eventually Voiceover gets stuck on one particular cell and keeps repeating >> its content over and over again unless I arrow up and down very very slowly. >> >> I'd welcome any suggestions. I'd be reluctant to have to install Fusion but >> if this is the only option, I may have to. But then I'd have to buy Ms >> Office which is very expensive. >> >> In case it helps, I run Mountain Lion on Macbook Air, 2.13 GHz Intel Core 2 >> Duo, 4GB RAM, 256 GB solid drive. Does Numbers perform better on newer >> machines? I understand I can't add more RAM to my macbook air. It's late >> 2010 and I have the maximum RAM possible. >> >> Many thanks for any suggestions >> >> Andrew >> >> erik burggraaf <[email protected]> Nov 18 08:32AM -0500 >> >> Hi, I've got a 2011 core i5 macbook pro with 8 gb ram and an ssd and all the >> issues you reported. >> i can sort of get around with the find feature some times, but not always. >> IWork hasn't been updated since snow leopard. I'm wondering if it's partly a >> compatibility issue with new operating systems. >> >> i tried tables but it will only import excel files. I'm not really very >> happy with the way it imported them either. I'll try it again now and see if >> i can force it into submission. >> >> Best, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting >> at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. >> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >> >> >> Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> Nov 18 08:52AM -0700 >> >> Hi Andrew, >> >> I tried to duplicate this with a spreadsheet with over 220 rows but did not >> get the same result. Granted, your sheet may be more complicated than mine >> with more formulas and calculations. Have you tried turning Cursor Tracking >> off (fn-VO-shift-f3 when navigating through the sheet? When using this >> method, you will need to do an extra step to bring focus back together but >> it does make the navigation experience smoother. >> >> With Cursor Tracking Off, there are two basic methods to navigate: >> >> 1. Navigate up or down, right or left either with VO keys down (lock them >> down with VO-semi-colon if you wish) then bring things back together with >> fn-VO-cmd-f4. >> >> 2. Use up/down and right/left arrows to navigate around then toggle Cursor >> Tracking back on to bring focus back together. You'll need to navigate one >> cell away then back again to force the focus together. >> >> Having Cursor Tracking off also allows the fast movement to the end of your >> spreadsheet without causing things to go busy. >> >> See if this helps you at all. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> >> Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> Nov 18 01:06PM -0600 >> >> Hi there >> Ever since we went to Mountain lion, I have had problems with numbers >> slowing down big time on large files. I have Faillone the one thing that >> helps a little. I turned the mouse follows voiceover cursor off. I had it >> on, And I have found that it makes a difference. Maybe I should see what >> happens if I turn cursor tracking off as well, and see if that makes it even >> better. >> Gigi >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> Nov 18 01:20PM -0600 >> >> Hi there >> I don't know if this'll help or not, but there is a way to enter data into >> numbers with TextEdit. I do this a fair amount. You can do this by putting >> carriage returns to separate the Rose, and separate columns with the . So >> let's say we have three columns and four rows that we want to make entries >> for. After you get into TextEdit typing in the first entry for column one. >> Press the tab key and type in the entry for column 2, press the again >> type the entry and for column 3. Then press the carriage return to go back >> to column 1 keep doing this and two you have all your data put it. Then >> select all your text, copy to the clipboard, and going to numbers. Put your >> cursor where you want To start putting in your data. Press option down arrow >> to add in the number of rows you're going to meet. Then making sure your >> cursor is in the right starting position paste what you just got from >> TextEdit. Right now, Numbers doesn't seem to be having problems with pasted >> text. I have only had problems when I try to type it in. I hope this helps >> Gigi >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> Nov 18 01:29PM -0600 >> >> Hi there >> I just thought of something else, but some other person on this list is >> going to have to help you to do it if my ideas any good. Would it be >> possible to put lion or Snow Leopard also on your Mac so that you could run >> your numbers program on one of them instead? In my case, I could go to the >> App Store and download again Lion. I don't think you have to pay again to do >> that. If I continue to have problems with numbers and it gets worse, I may >> have to do that myself. >> Gigi >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> erik burggraaf <[email protected]> Nov 18 11:14AM -0500 >> >> Hi, I'm revisiting tables. I think I might buy it. It's tediously slow, but >> I can press command shift A and bring up a go to range dialog which is >> similar to the one in excel. Then I can type the cell I want to visit, even >> if it's 80 or 100 rows down the table and I will eventually get there. I >> turned on the accessibility features in tables but I'm not sure they make a >> difference. >> >> I'm really clammering here. I've relied on spreadsheeting to run my business >> for 3 years and since open office is now pooched, there hasn't been a single >> decent solution for mac. >> >> I'm planning to buy tables just for the convenience of jumping to a cell by >> co-ordinates which I can't off hand see how to accomplish in numbers. >> >> Best, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting >> at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. >> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >> >> >> Facebook on the Mac >> Richard Ring <[email protected]> Nov 18 11:56AM -0600 >> >> Greetings all, >> I am attempting to do something I never thought I'd do, that is, set up a >> facebook account. I'm trying this on my Mac book Pro running Mountain Lion >> with all updates applied. One thing the page has is a combo box (rather than >> a popup button) that you're supposed to use to search for friends. I can't >> see a way to use this control. Is anyone using Facebook on the Mac? Not some >> special Mac app, just their web site. I'm sorry to clutter the list with >> this, as it is rather fundamental in nature. I can't use Facebook, and when >> people search for me, they get errors. I don't know how much information one >> has to add to have a full fledged account, but aparently, I don't. >> Growl. >> >> Sent from my Mac Book Pro >> [email protected] >> >> Michael Babcock <[email protected]> Nov 18 11:07AM -0700 >> >> Dan typing in that combo box, and then utilize it just your down arrow after >> you type your friends name. It is a strange HTML form utilizing JavaScript >> that Facebook has implemented because it looks visually "appealing". >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> Mauricio Almeida <[email protected]> Nov 18 01:09PM -0500 >> >> hello there, >> >> from my understanding, you completed your account, but is having issues with >> that search box which is annoying, correct? >> well. here's the deal with that: >> it will not read you what you're typing, but it will actually search, so >> say, if you type mauricio almeida and either press enter or press the search >> button, it will search for mauricio almeida. >> then you can just use vo u and navigate through headings to find results. >> >> hope this helps, >> >> mauricio >> >> Richard Ring <[email protected]> Nov 18 12:44PM -0600 >> >> Thanks, I'm gonna try this. >> Sent from my Mac Book Pro >> [email protected] >> >> >> Renaming >> Craig J Dunlop <[email protected]> Nov 18 12:07PM -0600 >> >> Using mountain lion how do I rename a file or folder? I've looked through >> the menus and just can't seem to find the right command. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Michael Babcock <[email protected]> Nov 18 11:09AM -0700 >> >> Highlight the file or folder, and press your enter key. This is the key to >> keys to the Right of the letter L. This will bring you into an edit field, >> where you can simply type the new name of the file or folder. Simply >> pressing enter again will rename the file or folder. I hope this helps. >> Michael >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <[email protected]> Nov 18 01:12PM -0500 >> >> Oh, easy. >> >> When you're focused on the file or folder, hit your return key. This will >> then present you with a text box with the folder or file name which you can >> edit/rename at free will. When done, hit return again to accept the change. >> >> Thank you kindly, >> >> Christopher-Mark Gilland. >> Founder of CLG Productions >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Craig J Dunlop" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 1:07 PM >> Subject: Renaming >> >> >> >> "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <[email protected]> Nov 18 01:14PM -0500 >> >> Mike, you forgot the apostrophy key. It's 3 keys to the right of the letter >> l. L, semicolon, apostrophy, then, return. >> >> LOL! Sorry, I couldn't resist. >> >> Thank you kindly, >> >> Christopher-Mark Gilland. >> Founder of CLG Productions >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michael Babcock" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 1:09 PM >> Subject: Re: Renaming >> >> >> Highlight the file or folder, and press your enter key. This is the key to >> keys to the Right of the letter L. This will bring you into an edit field, >> where you can simply type the new name of the file or folder. Simply >> pressing enter again will rename the file or folder. I hope this helps. >> Michael >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> Opinions on I Mac. >> Les Kriegler <[email protected]> Nov 18 12:40PM -0500 >> >> Hi Kawal, >> >> Your best bet is to contact Apple to discuss specs for the 2 machines. I >> have a 21 inch model, and at the time, I believe I bought the fastest >> processor they offered. This was in March of this year. >> >> Les >> >> Mail Busy ... >> [email protected] Nov 17 03:26PM -0800 >> >> I used to receive a great deal of busy messages also when I was in mail or >> some other programs but then I updated my ram to 4 gigabytes and things have >> been running much smoother now. >> >> Mike Dailey <[email protected]> Nov 18 07:46AM -0800 >> >> Thanks Candie, >> >> I will try that. I only have 3GB right now, so hopefully that will help. >> >> >> On Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:26:32 PM UTC-5, Candie wrote: >> >> Bookmark bar in Safari >> Bill Holton <[email protected]> Nov 17 05:03PM -0500 >> >> Hi. >> How do you delete a bookmark from the bookmarks bar in Safari? >> Thanks. >> >> [email protected] Nov 17 03:20PM -0800 >> >> You can press the backspace key on the item you want to delete. >> >> "Bill Holton" <[email protected]> Nov 18 10:40AM -0500 >> >> Hi. >> I must be doing something wrong, because all that does is throw me out of >> the bar with no action taken. I have tried this both on the bookmark bar, >> and on the list of bookmarks in the bookmarks menu. Any thoughts where I >> might be going wrong? >> >> >> >> BILL HOLTON >> Email: [email protected] >> Direct: 386-624-6309 >> Home Office: 1520 Loughton ST >> DeLand, FL 32720 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:20 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Bookmark bar in Safari >> >> You can press the backspace key on the item you want to delete. >> > Thanks. >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> Amadeus Pro Tutorial >> Beefcakes <[email protected]> Nov 17 10:26PM -0500 >> >> Hi Esther, I would just wondering if you had ever compared Amadeus with >> GarageBand and which when you feel is a better music editor and music >> producer multitrack music producer? Just curious if you've ever done that, >> thanks a lot, John >> >> Cakes >> >> >> Barnes and Noble E-reads and nook: How Accessible are They? >> Donna Goodin <[email protected]> Nov 17 05:07PM -0600 >> >> So is it possible to import B&N books into iBooks? I was under the >> impression that that was not possible. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> super duper >> arthur gindin <[email protected]> Nov 17 06:03PM -0500 >> >> shirt pocket >> >> On 11/17/12 3:11 PM, Wayne Coles wrote: >> >> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group >> macvisionaries. >> You can post via email. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. >> For more options, visit this group. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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