I would say if the screen reader can "fix" bad code and make it work the way it should have, please do it! There are more than plenty of instances where you will never get the developer to fix it or even begin to care. If you do then there are advantages to that, but who knows how many weeks, months or years it would take for that to happen. So how about if the screen reader told you it corrected something, allowed you to turn that functionality off if you really wanted to and then you could get tings done and then take all your time trying to right the world in Nigotiations with the developer if you wanted to. Have fun.
On 11/24/12, Jürgen Fleger <[email protected]> wrote: > Got it. That's really interesting. I like this way of philosophie. But on > the other hand for a "simple" user the most important seems to be that the > screen reader just works. The "average" user is probably not interested in > technical back ground stuff but in just working with a web side as easily as > possible. Eventually that's Apples philosophie in all there products for > sighted customers. > I wished they tried to implement some stuff in VO to compensate bad code > from web side developers. In the end it takes my time to surf a web side not > theirs. > But thanks again for your explanation. It gives me more clarity. > Jürgen > > Am 24.11.2012 um 01:45 schrieb Chris Blouch <[email protected]>: > >> One problem with Jaws is that it will attempt to 'repair' bad HTML under >> the hood. For testing this masks errors in a site from developers such >> that Jaws might work ok but other screen readers are not as tolerant of >> bad code in a particular setup. VoiceOver on Mac and NVDA on Windows do >> not attempt to repair bad code and rely on developers doing the right >> thing to begin with. This philosophical difference means comparisons of >> compatibility between Jaws and any other screen reader/browser combo just >> isn't going to match. >> >> CB >> >> On 11/22/12 11:18 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: >>> That happens here as well. Apple probably will tell you that it depends >>> how the side is built. >>> I recently discribed to them the issue that VO quite often doesn't >>> interact with a web page, despite the fact that it's checked in the the >>> VO settings. They told me it depends on the web side not on VO. My >>> impression is Safari is not built to support all the possibilities of >>> VoiceOver. And so it seems not to work reliablly. But I wonder why it >>> works in Internet Explorer and Jaws on the same side. Maybe the structure >>> of Internet Explorer allows a better compatibility to a screen reader. I >>> don't know. But if it is not a VO issue and it works in Windows screen >>> readers it might be so. >>> >>> Am 20.11.2012 um 18:53 schrieb Alex Hall <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> Every so often, when I load or reload a page, vo will restart. I will >>>> hear "Voiceover on" after several seconds of intense activity from the >>>> hard drive, and things will proceed normally from there. Why would vo be >>>> crashing, and are there logs I could use to pinpoint the problem or at >>>> least tell Apple what is going on? >>>> >>>> >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
