Hi, I can honestly say, I've encountered similar things on windows using Jaws. Certain commands will work in one application, or in a certain instance, but not in another. I honestly can't say if VO on the Mac does this more or less. I guess thats pretty subjective. But, I don't think its something that only effects The Mac and VO.
Ricardo Walker [email protected] Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:39 PM, Danny Noonan <[email protected]> wrote: > When the concept works, it's great but all the times it's broken, it sux. > Some times, VO J doesn't move you between all areas you want access too. You > can't always jump to a table unless your interacting with another table or > similar area. Unless I don't know a cool command, there's no way to quickly > move between the tool bar and the preference pane in system preferences. Oh > wait on, I just found vo command p will do it. Yep, proving my point by > having to do a different command to do virtually the same thing as in other > apps. Consistancy is dead on the mac. It's no wonder so many newbies have > trouble as they have to learn 5 methods of doing the same thing each often > with multiple steps and different key strokes. > > Sorry, getting some frustrations off my chest. This by the way is not a mac > sux rant, more just pointing out that there is still a lot of room for > improvement. In our home we have 4 iPhones, and iPod touch, 2 apple tv's and > 2 MacBooks so we do tend to love our apple stuff, we just don't like that > apple don't always listen. They do listen some times though right?! > > Danny who rips off another tag line in still loving his macs and iDevices. > > > On 15/01/2013, at 10:15 AM, Harry Hogue <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Interacting, once you get used to it, is actually a wonderful thing. It >> allows me to quickly skip across frames in web pages and groups of buttons, >> tables, etc. >> >> Harry >> >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Kerri <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I have to say that this is true when I became a mac user. What I found >>> tough was that blasted interacting, I still detest it vehemently. But >>> forgetting windows completely for me, was not a huge help because of the >>> concepts that are the same across the board. >>> On 2013-01-14, at 4:51 AM, erik burggraaf <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and >>>> sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples >>>> pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across >>>> the board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. >>>> Some users Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read >>>> the title bar? So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the >>>> title of a window, even if I have to then explain about the application >>>> chooser since they are on the same keypress, it makes them feel better >>>> having that handy. >>>> >>>> I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on >>>> which one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Erik Burggraaf >>>> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the >>>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog >>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>>> >>>> On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything >>>>> you know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and day, >>>>> so open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your not a >>>>> knew computer user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, >>>>> everything will start to make more since. >>>>> >>>>> Kliphton Senior >>>>> (Email&iMessage) [email protected] >>>>> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 >>>>> (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com >>>>> (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com >>>>> http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:28 AM, David Hole <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi folks. >>>>>> >>>>>> As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping >>>>>> blind people switching from Windows to Mac. >>>>>> Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver >>>>>> commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from the Windows >>>>>> platform, and learn Mac the best way there is? >>>>>> For example, is the best way to first learn to use VoiceOver with the >>>>>> QuickKeys, or the hard way with so many keys pressed at once some >>>>>> times? >>>>>> What about what to learn first, do you learn them a piece of software >>>>>> (such as Mail or Safari) or how the OS and how VoiceOver interacts >>>>>> with it before going into apps? >>>>>> >>>>>> All comments on this is really welcome. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards David >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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