Hi Chris. 
You are correct in describing how the Greek language works etc.
I don't use Alexandros that often. I use the acapela Dimitris which is a great 
voice. I only use it in modern Greek though. 
As for my problem, yes, voice over recognizes and reads Greek characters fine. 
However, when I spell or type a word, instead of just saying what I type, it 
describes the letters. 
So, for those who don't get it still, imagine voice over saying when you type. 
Small English letter a, small English letter b or capital English letter c, 
instead of a, b, C. 
By the way, if Anne reads this topic, it still does this even if I switched my 
OS environment to Greek. 
I think a message to Apple accessibility is in order. <smile> 

Nektarios.

On Jan 30, 2013, at 1:55 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Yadsu Nektarios.  Ti kaneté?  Iné epsi epsi.
> 
> I think it's probably doing this to indicate a lower case vs. a capital 
> letter.  Wow, I really need more practice!  I forgot gama came after beta. 
> Anyway, I'm curious.  What does Alexandros do with your tonos?  Like if I'm 
> writing My name, Xristos.  This could really be a problem, as if you put the 
> meh tono on the ita, your good, but you put it on the omicran, um... Den meh 
> lene Christ.  LOL!  OK OK, let me fill everyone in.  Most languages have 
> different accent marks.  Nektarios, I know you and I know what this is all 
> about, just hang tight and let me explain for the sake of others on list. 
> ROFL!  Basically, in Greek, both moddern, and! for that mind, liturgical 
> greek... BTW, good luck finding a voice to do the old Liturgical greek.  Oh, 
> Nektarios? If you? find! a voice to do that? I will love you forever! Anyway, 
> Greek has what's called Tonos.  Basically... tone.  OK, be careful here 
> though.  By tone, I don't mean like some asian languages where you have the 
> rise 1 3 5 tone type of system.  Unfortunately, they mean more tone as in 
> stress.  Yeah, there were actual stress marks, in the liturgical greek, but 
> not in the more moddern Greek you'd here today say, if you went to Athens or 
> somewhere.  Anyway, so what I was joking about is with my name, Christopher.  
> So, in the vocative form, Nektarios, correct me off list on this if I'm wrong 
> as I do get these backwards sometimes.  My name is Xristos.  So, basically, 
> he, ro, ita meh tono, sigma, tof, omikran, sigma telico.  Don't worry about 
> the telico on the last sigma.  Bottom line is, I was joking with him, saying 
> put the stress meh tono on the omikran instead of the ita.  If you do that, 
> vocative or nomative form, doesn't matter, you basically then just called me 
> Christ.  Yes, the tones can do that much. Anyway, that's OT, but I did wanna 
> fill yall in so you'd not be totally lost at that joke.  Anyway, never mind.  
> LOL!  Basically though, yeah, I'd be interested if he does do the tonos 
> correctly.  It's totally sad that he doesn't pronounce a lot of the stresses 
> correctly.  This is why I don't really prefer him as a voice.  Lamentably, 
> he's really all we have right now.  I do however wonder if the female voice 
> is any better, or for that mind if the Greek voices from Acapela would do any 
> better.
> 
> Efxaisto, kay An dio.
> 
> Chris Gilland.
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nektarios Mallas" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:17 AM
> Subject: spelling in Greek with voice over.
> 
> 
> Hi list.
> I am not sure when this problem started, I don't even remember if it ever 
> worked correctly. <smile>
> When I type text in Greek using any Greek voice either from Acapela or the 
> default from Apple, if I want to spell a word with vo + w for example, 
> instead of the actual letters, alpha, beta, gama etc, voice over says, "small 
> Greek letter alpha, small Greek letter beta " etc.
> Any multilingual users on this list face this problem? Is there any setting 
> in Voice over to fix this?
> Any help is very much appreciated.
> 
> Nektarios.
> 
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