Thanks, Chris. That looks good. I note their demo was using JAWS. I've noticed that JAWS does tend to work a bit better with rich text editors for me. I'd be worried that CKEditor might work well with JAWS, but not VoiceOver. I'm keen to try and encourage people to make their websites accessible for both windows and Mac screen readers. Hopefully CKEditor will be fine with VoiceOver though.
Re AJAX, the problem with this university website, as with Facebook, Gmail, Google Calendar and other AJAX sites I use, is that typically there is no announcement to indicate when and where a menu has popped up. There's no way to navigate quickly to the menu by heading or landmark or anything, so one is forced to fumble around through the whole site trying to find whether a menu has popped up and if so where. For instance, this university site has icons which VoiceOver reads as just plane text elements. If, however, you click on them a frame opens up at the bottom of the page. But VoiceOver doesn't say anything to indicate this. Moreover, there's files which appear as icons. A user needs to right click them to reveal a menu. this is not the browser or system menu. The web app has hijacked the system menu. Instead, an AJAX menu appears. However, the VO-SHIFT-M command of course does not work to reveal this menu. I had to route the mouse curser and then perform an actual control click. I don't think most VoiceOver users would think to do this without any instructions that there was right click options for those icons. Moreover, once the menu is revealed, there's no way to get rid of it with VoiceOver. You need to either choose one of the menu options, or click somewhere else on the screen and hope you don't click on something you didn't want to click on. So sure, this is all useable, but it's not user friendly. Plane HTML would be able to perform all these functions and it would be much more user friendly for screen reader users. Though it would, of course, not look as cool for sighted persons. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
