nice! :) On 8/9/13, Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote: > The advantage of doing it Paul's way is that it doesn't matter how many VM > Machines you have with Windows, you can always have an insert key that way > paul says in his message below. One of the reasons why I only use VM > preferences. > > Kawal. > > On 9 Aug 2013, at 11:38 AM, Paul Erkens <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Sandy, >> >> Capslock is trickey to do under fusion, so let's just use the insert key. >> Insert is normally not available on a mac keyboard. There is a key that >> you could use as insert though, which is the accent key, on US keyboard >> just below escape. To map the accent key to become the insert key as long >> as you have windows on, do the following. >> >> Open fusion and make sure that all VM's are shut off. Then hit command >> comma, to get into the preferences for fusion. From the toolbar, select >> keyboard and mouse. You now see your current key mappings. Skip the >> profile bit. Just leave that at default. Hit add, to add a new mapping. >> >> In the dialog that comes, VO over to the first combobox. This is where you >> set your source key to be mapped, in your case accent. So, once on the >> combobox, just hit accent and move on. You'll then find the to, field. >> Skip all the checkboxes and stop on the next combobox. This is where you >> select the key you want to happen, if you hit your accent key, so we must >> select insert in here. If you hit VO space on the combobox, a list will >> pop up as usual. Select insert, but do not hit VO space. What you have to >> do in little, non-standard interface, is stop interacting till you can not >> go up any further. This leaves the combobox alone, having insert selected. >> Now hit okay and you have your insert key. Exit fusion preferences by >> hitting command w, for close window. >> >> Fire up windows and NVDA, hold down accent, below escape, and hit n. If >> all went well, the NVDA menu will pop up, because NVDA thinks it sees >> insert plus n. If that does not happen, go back into fusion preferences >> and check your mapping. If it was wrong, delete it and start over. >> >> Hth, >> Paul. >> On Aug 9, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Paul, and first of all thank you for the tidbits, :) it is always >>> wonderful to get help from others who knows more about a given >>> situation than one might. >>> What i have done so far, and it is not given it is the best thing, but >>> more about that later on. >>> Eventually i have a scanner, it won't run under mac, so i simply took >>> a old xp cd, inserted it into the 12 core mac pro, installed windows >>> on it and more or less have mapped the keys as you said, installed >>> nvda and after that moved it allover via the usb key on the mac book >>> air. Now of course i need to set the nvda keys up, but I'm confident >>> i can do that on my own :) >>> >>> >>> have a wonderful day >>> >>> >>> sandi >>> >>> >>> On 8/9/13, Paul Erkens <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi Sandy and others interested, >>>> >>>> After you have fusion installed and you have a windows vm running, you >>>> can >>>> go a few different ways. As it is by default with fusion and windows, >>>> the >>>> command key next to the spacebar, is not the alt key as you would >>>> expect >>>> from a windows keyboard. Instead, command is now the windows logo key, >>>> while >>>> the mac option key is alt, in windows. You can choose to leave that as >>>> it >>>> is, or you can swap the keys if you prefer so. You can do this in the >>>> global >>>> preferences inside fusion, command comma, when all VMs are shut down. >>>> There >>>> is a keyboard setup screen with multiple tab sheets there, available >>>> from >>>> the toolbar. You'll find a listbox there, containing all current, >>>> default >>>> key bindings. For example, the mac user does a command c to copy, while >>>> in >>>> windows, you would do control c rather than command c. So, fusion, to >>>> make >>>> the windows interface as intuitive as possible for the mac user, >>>> assigns >>>> command c to be mapped to control c. In other words, in a windows >>>> virtual >>>> machine, by default, command c does the same thing as control c. >>>> >>>> This is not always what you want. There are a few other keystrokes that >>>> can >>>> get in your way, mapped inside this same screen, that you may want to >>>> get >>>> rid of, depending on your preference. For instance, command h, by >>>> default in >>>> windows fusion, maps to hide the current application, in this case >>>> fusion >>>> itself, while alt h in windows, will simply open, or pull down, the >>>> help >>>> menu for the current program. This is only true, if you swap the windows >>>> and >>>> alt keys yourself, so that the windows keyboard feels more like a >>>> windows >>>> one. When I was inside windows working happily away, I pressed alt h to >>>> open >>>> the help, and suddenly speech went away. I later discovered, that fusion >>>> was >>>> out of focus, and so I was in the mac system. After turning voiceover >>>> back >>>> on, I could navigate back into windows, turn it off, and continue >>>> windowing. >>>> so depending on your preference, you might want to do away with these >>>> key >>>> bindings. >>>> >>>> Anyway, over 10 key combinations are here by default, and simply by >>>> highlighting the key you don't want changed and hitting the remove >>>> button >>>> next to the list box, you can get rid of them. >>>> >>>> In windows xp, you can start narrator in a few ways. You can type in >>>> its >>>> name and have windows start that up. In this case, hit alt plus r, type >>>> narrator, and hit enter. Or, you can start narrator by launching what >>>> is >>>> called the utility manager in windows. This is a program for assistive >>>> technologies, and if you run that, it also happens to invoke narrator. >>>> To >>>> start narrator this way, simply hit windows logo, plus the u key, as in >>>> utility manager. Be aware though, that you now have 2 programs open, >>>> the >>>> utility manager and the narrator. If you then alt tab to the utility >>>> manager, you can safely close it, without loosing speech, because >>>> narrator >>>> is still running, and so you no longer need utility manager to be >>>> running, >>>> because you only used it to invoke narrator. >>>> >>>> In windows 7, I found that the easiest way to get narrator to talk, is >>>> by >>>> hitting alt plus r, typing narrator followed by enter. You can still >>>> use >>>> utility manager, but I don't know its keystrokes. Once narrator is >>>> running, >>>> you need a way to get NVDA or any screen reader of choice, to run in >>>> windows. To do that, you could use a USB stick, but there's an easier >>>> method. >>>> >>>> You can access your mac files, from within windows, using a service >>>> that >>>> fusion gives you. >>>> If, during the windows setup in fusion, you chose to set windows up >>>> more >>>> seamless, as opposed to more isolated, then in seemless mode, there is >>>> an >>>> icon on your desktop called vmware shared folders. Technically, this is >>>> a >>>> virtual network connection, but in practice, this takes you into your >>>> mac >>>> file system, and if you have NVDA downloaded there somewhere, then you >>>> can >>>> easily install it. >>>> >>>> If you move to windows 7 from xp, which is wise in the near future given >>>> the >>>> fact that security updates will no longer appear after april 14th 2014, >>>> then >>>> if you install NVDA, it may seem to hang during the installation. This >>>> is in >>>> fact not true, but what I had to find out about before being able to >>>> install >>>> NVDA, is that on the screen, but in the background, there is a user >>>> access >>>> control window, asking you if you really want to install a new peace of >>>> software. UAC protects you from installing unintentional things, by >>>> popping >>>> up a warning if windows sees that stuff is being installed, and that's >>>> all >>>> fine and good, but not if you are not aware of this window appearing in >>>> the >>>> background, while you are awaiting the finish of the NVDA installation. >>>> What >>>> you can do is, simply alt tab to this UAC window, say yes, and >>>> immediately >>>> NVDA goes on and installs. >>>> >>>> Hth, >>>> Paul. >>>> On Aug 8, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> hi, eventually i have at long last got vmware up and run with windows, >>>>> but can anyone tell me what do i do from there? getting narrator or >>>>> nvda up and run would be a good thing, but how? all this done with vo, >>>>> of course :) >>>>> any help is mostly appreciated >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> sandi >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >
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