As someone who has read everyone of these Mavericks post, and has yet to 
update, the answer to this question for a gmail user seems to be No. I usually 
upgrade to the new operating systems in the first week or two, but from what I 
have read, I can't seem to find one thing that makes Mavericks worth the 
upgrade. Please do correct me if I am wrong, but since I would list email and 
mammal towards the top of what I use my computer for, it sounds like either 
Apple or Gmail dropped the ball somewhere big time. I don't plan on using 
Ibooks and I am disappointed to hear that Apple failed miserably when building 
the accessibility in to it. As a die hard Apple fan, iMac, Mac Air, iPhone 3S, 
4S, and 5S, I feel Apple has really been slipping in testing accessibility for 
releases. Considering how buggy IOS 7 is, and now Mavericks, I might have to 
start paying more attention to what the other guys are doing. I have gotten rid 
of anything running Windows in my house so am disappointed by the results to 
Apple's latest releases. Hopefully the bug improvement schedule won't be on the 
same schedule fixing numbers has been, 8 years.
On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Matt Dierckens <matt.dierck...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> Well, it makes sense, as Nuance bought Loquendo a few years ago.
> 
> Matt Dierckens
> matt.dierck...@gmail.com
> Assistive Technology Trainer
> IOS and Macintosh User support
> Windsor area
> 
> 
> On 2013-10-26, at 4:34 PM, BBS <bigbigshawn....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> My favorite voice for Vocalizer Expressive is Karen because she sounds more 
>> human than the rest of them. I kinda find it funny that Nuance put the 
>> original Loquendo voices, (Alison, Kate, and Susan) into Vocalizer 
>> Expressive. Funny and a little bit saddened that they didn’t keep the 
>> ability for those three to do exclamations anymore.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White Mac Book
>> 
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, if you go into Voiceover’s speech settings and choose customize from 
>>> the default voice popup, or from the same popup in System Preferences > 
>>> Speech and Dictation > Speech tab, you’ll find them. As usual, check the 
>>> ones you want, they will download, and there you go. Off the top of my 
>>> head, the new voices are kate, Ava, Allison, Oliver, Susan, and an India 
>>> one whose name I don’t remember. My personal favorite is Ava, but they are 
>>> all pretty good.
>>> 
>>> Mario, your messages are reaching the list. I’m not sure what tutorial you 
>>> mean, though.
>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 12:23 PM, mario navarro <mario....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> hi guys, sorry for making dynamic reading, but I do not know if my 
>>>> messages are reaching the group.
>>>> please tell me.
>>>> read below.    
>>>> hi folks. 
>>>> for those who have already upgraded to the Mavericks: 
>>>> someone can tell me if the manual VoiceOver Getting Started 
>>>> is now available for the mavericks? 
>>>> would be nice to take some questions. 
>>>> I think it's still a bit early but ... 
>>>> 
>>>> thanks. 
>>>> cheers. 
>>>> Em 26/10/2013 16:58, Maggie's Dobermail escreveu:
>>>>> Well, for what it’s worth, I don’t think they are really “new”, just 
>>>>> improved a bit.  For example, you don’t get any new choices to my 
>>>>> knowledge other then the usual Samantha, Daniel, etc..
>>>>> I know somebody will correct me if this is off base..
>>>>> Cait
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Courtney Curran <moopiecur...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Wait a minute, there are new vo voices?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Courtney
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iMac
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>> 
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