I did this 1. Using classic view, I made sure I was not interacting with the message table.
2. Next, pressed VO+down till I heard “horisontal scrole area. 3. Next, routed the mouse to that area. 4. Making sure track pad commander was off, (it’s always off for me) I double clicked the track pad. Still, I cannot tell if messages are read or unread but, I suspect that they are read as I arrow over them because as I arrow through them, I hear the time stamp before the subject line if a message is read. If a message is unread, I hear the subject line first. I wish they would fix this damn thing. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 27, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote: > Hello Ray, > > The track pad commander should be off. So, after the double-click, just do > VO-Down Arrow and there should be nothing there. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 27 Oct 2013, at 16:02, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Okay. So, after I double click with the track pad, do I slide my finger >> either left or right? IF not, how do I know the blasted pain is closed? >> >> Usually use standard view. >> >> >> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >> built-in! >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >> >> On Oct 27, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote: >> >>> Hello Ray, >>> >>> In Classic view, you go to the messages table but don’t interact with it. >>> Make sure that Quick Nav is off. VO-Down Arrow and you should hear >>> “Horizontal splitter”. Bring the mouse and double-click with the track pad. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> On 27 Oct 2013, at 15:28, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Can’t seem to do that in OS 10.9. I do the following. >>>> >>>> 1. Switch mail to use classic view. >>>> >>>> 2. Close pref window. >>>> >>>> 3. Move to the right of the messasge table until I find the splitter >>>> thingie, I think there’s only one but that the one I go to. >>>> 4. Now, use VO+CMD+F5 to rout the mouse to that point. >>>> >>>> 5. Now, activate the mouse keys with Option five times. >>>> >>>> 6. Now, press zero on the numbers row to lock the mouse. >>>> >>>> 7. Now, press the o key until I hear something different but I don’t. >>>> >>>> I’ve even tried this with the track pad with Track pad commander off >>>> and it don’t work. >>>> >>>> I think I must be doing something wrong but cannot be sure. I’m using a >>>> Mac book Pro with the FN key on the very left bottom of the bluetooth >>>> keyboard and only a left side control key if that helps. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>>> built-in! >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>>> >>>> On Oct 27, 2013, at 8:07 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Ray, >>>>> >>>>> If the preview pane is showing, all your messages will appear to be read >>>>> as each message opens as soon as you land on it. This is why I always >>>>> disable the preview pane. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Anne >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 27 Oct 2013, at 10:15, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ever since I played with the preview pain in mail last night, I don’t >>>>>> even get told whether a message I’m passing over is read or unread. How >>>>>> if possible can I make sure to get this information? 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